Israeli Arabs and Ultra Orthodox Jews are so fertile that it is running out of room says Alon Tal, a professor at Ben-Gurion University's Institutes for Desert Research and founder of the Green Movement party. "Israel is on the road to an ecological, social and quality of life disaster because as the population density rises it becomes more violent, congested and unpleasant to live in and with absolutely no room for any species other than humans." http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/25/us-israel-demographics-idUSKCN0RP0Z820150925 Now, what is a country to do when it needs Lebensraum, one wonders. Haredi kids walk to school in West Jerusalem
Do what the Palestinians have done, have an ever increasing population that increases faster than most western nations, claim the entire British Mandate as their land and continue with their declaration of war against Israel and have their official policy it's destruction by violence to claim it as their own. Geesh, you need to crack a book for further knowledge when we all know that is what they have officially claimed as their solution,
if done right, 1,000 people per square mile is fine. they need to build up, not out. several apartment buildings cna easily hold 1,000 peeps. the rest will be stores, roads, shops, and parkland.
Well, its a demographic time bomb.. The Haredi and ultra-conservative Jews have lots of children.. They won't work or serve in the IDF, draw heavily on services and subsidized housing ...and, have little education beyond Torah. Palestinians, especially poor Palestinians also have lots of children. There may come a time when educated Jews with means and opportunity will get tired of supporting the growing number of freeloaders and pick up an leave.
Let this Palestinian Arab teach you all a few things... Watch this VIDEO to the end. A Palestinian Perspective: Bassem Eid https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=2D0MmQCNVYk
The PA in the West Bank doesn't want to take over Israel with Abbas trying to get a state through negotiations. Other than with Olmert which both sides agree were months away from a deal(Abbas agreed to Israel annexing all of settlement blocs except for Ariel which sits on fertile land reserves, Israel keeping all of the Jewish neighborhoods in East Jerusalem except for Har Homa which was built during 1990's, demilitarized borders etc but ran out of time to solve differences) the negotiations didn't go far. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/magazine/13Israel-t.html Also "This link(this was in response to previous post you did) you gave me before to PLO official charter. It says it's amended, here is excerpt from it "Amendments In a letter to Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, Yasser Arafat stated that those articles which denied Israel's right to exist or are inconsistent with the PLO's new commitments to Israel following their mutual reognition, were no longer valid (see Oslo peace process). "The PNC met in a special session on 26 April 1996 to consider the issue of amending the Charter and adopted the following decision: A. The Palestinian National Charter is hereby amended by canceling the articles that are contrary to the letters exchanged the P.L.O. and the Government of Israel 9-10 September 1993. B. Assigns its legal committee with the task of redrafting the Palestinian National Charter in order to present it to the first session of the Palestinian Central Council. The decision was adopted by a vote of: 504 in favor, 54 against, and 14 abstentions. On January 1998, Yasser Arafat sent a letter to US President, Bill Clinton, outlining the implications of this decision in terms of the specific articles of the Charter that were nullified or amended as a result of that decision. In December 1998, both the PLO Executive Committee and the PLO Central Council reaffirmed this decision" https://web.archive.org/web/20060616133925/http://www.pna.gov.ps/Government/gov/plo_Charter.asp This is also on Israel's foreign ministry website. http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/the palestinian national charter.aspx Even the other link a statement by the group World Union for Progressive Judaism to the UN noted "President Clinton declared to the Palestinian National Council in Gaza (14 December 199 “I thank you for your rejection—fully, finally and forever—of the passages in the Palestinian Charter calling for the destruction of Israel. For they were the ideological underpinnings of a struggle renounced at Oslo. By revoking them once and for all, you have sent, I say again, a powerful message not to the government, but to the people of Israel. You will touch people on the street there. You will reach their hearts there. Like President Clinton, Israel and the Likud party now formally agreed that the objectionable clauses of the charter had been abrogated – in official statements and statements by then Prime Minister Netanyahu, Foreign Minister Sharon, Defense Minister Mordechai and Trade and Industry Minister Sharansky. The official Israeli objections to the Charter disappeared thereafter from lists of Palestinian violations of agreements and the international legal controversy ended. " http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/853668C3E95F8E068525785500565876 Note that Sharon, Sharansky, and Bibi all from the right say that the PLO covenant has been amended. If the PLO did not amend it's charter Bibi would be demanding for it to be amended. No one would oppose Bibi on that action if he did that."
It is worth mentioning that Har Homa is an illegal Israeli settlement in occupied East Jerusalem, purposely constructed to obstruct the growth of the nearby Palestinian city of Bethlehem.
Nope. They all agree with me that the PA intended on changing it. None of them have said the Charter is changed. Want to know why? Because it has not been changed. The offensive passages still are present. That's why the UN is saying it hasn't been changed. Here is the PA Charter as it stands today, on their own website. Does it look like it's been changed? We can go round and round about how they wanted to, decided to and voted on whether to but in the end, it has yet to be changed. The PA Charter still calls for the violent destruction of Israel and states that they own Israel, Gaza, the West Bank and Jordan.
"The PNC met in a special session on 26 April 1996 to consider the issue of amending the Charter and adopted the following decision: A. The Palestinian National Charter is hereby amended by canceling the articles that are contrary to the letters exchanged the P.L.O. and the Government of Israel 9-10 September 1993." Again this is both PA official website and Israeli foreign ministry website. If the articles aren't cancelled Bibi and other Israelis would be demanding for the articles to be cancelled. Also, in 2003 a draft permanent Constitution was made by a committee appointed by PLO and by then PA Minister of Planning and International Cooperation Nabil Shaath. The consitution would have come into effect as constitution for a Palestinian state(Constitution was written during Roadmap process as part of political reform of PA in preparation for statehood). The draft Constitution for a Palestinian state created by the PLO says in article 1 "Palestine is an independent, sovereign state with a republican system. Its territory is an indivisible unit within its borders on the eve of June 4, 1967 and its territorial waters, without prejudice to the rights guaranteed by the international resolutions related to Palestine. All residents of this territory shall be subject to Palestinian law exclusively" and says in article 3 "Palestine is a peace loving state that condemns terror, occupation and aggression. It calls for the resolution of international and regional problems by peaceful means. It abides by the Charter of the United Nations". http://www.palestinianbasiclaw.org/basic-law/2003-permanent-constitution-draft http://www.reut-institute.org/Publication.aspx?PublicationId=490
We can go round and round about how they wanted to, decided to and voted on whether to but in the end, it has yet to be changed. The PA Charter still calls for the violent destruction of Israel and states that they own Israel, Gaza, the West Bank and Jordan. Here is the PA Charter as it stands today, on their own website. Does it look like it's been changed?
They already are leaving; in their thousands every year and mostly it appears because of growing disaffection with the lunatic Zionists in power. http://americanfreepress.net/tens-of-thousands-of-jews-leaving-israel-for-germany/ http://www.haaretz.com/news/feature...s-are-thinking-of-emigrating.premium-1.484945 That 40% of Israelis polled would consider emigrating must be shocking news for the expansionists.
"The PNC met in a special session on 26 April 1996 to consider the issue of amending the Charter and adopted the following decision: A. The Palestinian National Charter is hereby amended by canceling the articles that are contrary to the letters exchanged the P.L.O. and the Government of Israel 9-10 September 1993." Again this is on their official website. Those articles are cancelled . It shows charter from 1968 articles on 1968 charter that contradict Oslo Accords as stated above are cancelled. Also a PLO appointed committee passed a draft permanent constitution that would come into effect if a Palestinian state agreed was agreed upon. The draft in article 1 accepts 67 borders, article 3 rejects violence and terrorism.
Produce the 'amended' charter please as this current one calls for the violent destruction of Israel.
