It’s heating up: Syria readies to recapture Idlib, Moscow warns of provocation to frame Assad

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  1. Jim Nash

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    If your argument is "the rebels didn't initiate a chemical attack that was in their absolute best interests to do and in the absolute worst possible interests of Assad because forum poster Jim Nash, who's not generally regarded as an Islamic jihadist, can't tell me how they did it", I'm not sure it's destined for a fruitful existence.
     
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    How is this an issue? The previous gas attack was in one building. Chlorine gas apparently. All the headchopper " rebels" have to do is wheel in a barrel/s of the stuff, attach an explosive device on it with either a remote controlled detonator or timer and.. Voila you have a chemical attack. Airborne gas floods the building or area. Then rebels take lots of pictures and flood the internet with the victims. Then blame Assad.

    Hell if you were determined enough gas masks stop chlorine so a person could just tip over a few buckets of the stuff and walk out if liked too.
     
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    Well it's one or the other not " also" as far as the chlorine cannisters are concerned. The water purification form of elemental chlorine isnt going to kill anyone. The highly concentrated weaponized form of elemental chlorine is deadly if inhaled. Nor is anyone cooking the weaponized version in their bath tub either. Need a lab facility and chemist's etc.
     
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    During the Iraq war, our troops didn't know the difference and got all excited about finding chlorine for water purification.
     
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    There have been attacks with Sarin, Chlorine and Mustard gas.
     
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    Yep and when they were tested it was a nothin burger. Can't condense that formula of chlorine to a lethal level. So the rebels in Syria got their hands on some weapon grade stuff and are trucking it around using it right as they are getting kicked out of a city on civilians and blaming Assad. I mean the scenario has happened twice now
     
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    Assad's father had a chemical weapons program called CERS for decades starting in the 1970s.

    Why do you thin k its rebels?
     
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    So? You don't need an airborne delivery system only for any of those. Wheel barrow it in and dump it or blow it up. It's just a silly argument to suggest Assad had to do it because the Rebels have no aircraft. Why would the rebel Islamists need such a thing if they are literally in the city and buildings that are getting gassed?
     
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    I have already told you I do not know how many rebels there are. How come Margot you do not care about the genocide that is going on against the people of Yemen. What I said is that all lack of care towards civilians is disgusting but all the powers are doing it. You have no problem with the Sauds/US and UK doing it to some of the poorest people in the world in Yemen do you? You do not even acknowledge it then. That does not touch you at all. All civilians deserve proper care not just those who are killed by the ones you oppose. All civilians. In the current state of affairs no country is obeying the rules of war re care of civilians hence no one has a voice. Last night the Russians said that having spoken to Turkey they were going to review things.
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    This horse has been beaten to death a 100 times Margot. I ask any rational person to read the following two scenarios and tell me it makes any sense for Assad to gas his own people.

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    Assad gassed his own people on both previous occasions even though in both scenarios he was already winning the cities and the " rebels" IE paid Islamist headchoppers were on the run. Also Assad is not stupid. Using chemical weapons would draw immediate world wide condemnation and possibly provoke the US to attack him but hey who cares Assad did it!!

    2. Desperate scum Islamists who were imported in and paid to be rebels or at the very least provided serious material support from the US and KSA.. Needing the propaganda that children and civilians being attacked with gas provided, blew up or tipped over some weapon grade gas cans then ran into the area and took lots of pictures and video after the gas dissipated. Then flooded the internet with it

    How many times does the above 2. scenario have to play out before people see the same plot line by the " rebels"?

    But hey there is always the choice of option 1. Sure sure sure
     
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    Assad doesn't care.. They aren't going back to being a despised, impoverished group.
     
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    And where exactly do you think the Syrian freedom fighters are getting the sarin gas considering Assad has turned over all his stockpiles?
     
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    See the CERS program.. Probably getting what they need from NK.. That's been their source in the past.
     
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    And why would NK support the Syrian freedom fighters when Russia is allied with the Syria regime and NK gets support from Russia?
     
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    Question: Is Trump a puppet of Wallstreet?
     
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    I just don't get it why you are so sure of that. Why on Earth would Assad kill his own people?? Hasn't he already lost enough? How many million are sitting in camps and in Europe/Canada? Syria must be almost empty of civilians.
     
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    In other words, you don’t care about Syrians murdering Syrians. You are disgusted at those damn Jews and Yankees for not caring about other country’s civilians.
    Did I get that right?
     
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    I admire your ability and desire in taking on so many Russian trolls and Pootin apologists. Their never ending strategy of turning the simplest thing into a twisted, overly sophisticated scheme kills my interest in participating in this thread that turned into a Russian troll equivalent of a sausage fest.
     
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    I don't understand jeannette at all.
     
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    Why? Because he wants a Sunni genocide.
     
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    They could always reconcile with the Government and end any further hostile actions from both sides like they have in the rest of the country and recently in the South. If they dont, armed revolutions have to be dealt with right? They must think they can still win the revolution and defend what they took by force? What exactly would the solution be for Syria if the SAA dont attack, the rebel controlled parts of the country become a part of Turkey or their own country? The latter could happen if Turkey wants to defend the land and take them on, but if they want to form their own country, they have to win the revolution in battle right?
     
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    What are they fighting over, a piece of the Armageddon action? lol These bloody Muslims are something else aren't they - never happy unless they're killing somebody. :machinegun::machinegun:
     
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    I made it very clear that I find the fact that all powers are going against the rules of war re civilians to be disgusting in just the same way as I find your post to me disgusting. However Margot and I have argued about the genocide going on in Yemen and she does not care about it as it is done by the Sauds and she will accept anything they do. In just the same way as Margot does not care about the genocide which is happening in Yemen, she denies the Sauds involvement in Syria. The only reason Margot is mentioning a 'genocide' is because it is the enemies of the Sauds her beloved people. I care about all genocides. As far as you are concerned I have never seen you care about any other genocide either. I do not know whether there will be anything of the sort here but I do know that there would not if it were not that all Powers are ignoring the rules of war re care of civilians. I simply know with Margot it is not protesting because she is against genocide as she is supporting the genocide in Yemen. You have gone against forum rules to be disgusting towards me. Your hatred towards me is noted and will be kept in mind in any further correspondence to me. Again your disgusting post is against forum rules. You clearly support all Powers going against the rules of war re care of civilians as that was my point. That also disgusts.
     
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    Don't obsess about it so much, it's just nature's way of keeping down the global population to a sustainable number. If it wasn't for recent wars there would be mass starvation happening right now, maybe some of it in Scotland?
     
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    So what are you saying. You support genocide? Did you support the genocide of the Royingya?
     

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