It Can Happen Here: Expert On Tyranny Warns Of GOP Extremism

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  1. jcarlilesiu

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    Says the dude that posted a hyperbolic OP.
     
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    well your kids won't get one, but everyone who has ever registered - even if they moved or died - will.
    try www.goggle.com.
     
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    How many of these apply to the left? How many apply to the right?

    I'd say that this would actually apply to conservatives. Not obeying the government when they disagree with it is actually something that they pride themselves on. They are always questioning the government.

    This is actually equally applied to both left and right imo. Although it is situational for both also.

    This too applies to both sides. Both sides are trying to consolidate their own power. Both sides complain about the other side doing it but of course ignore that they too are doing it.

    Underlined: This is advocating violence. And is something that only the left does when it comes to symbols.

    Frankly I can't remember when a politician has "set a good example". So, this applies to both sides.

    Hmm...the "men with guns" would be the government. However he talks about "paramilitary", meaning those that are not a part of the normal military. IE: Militias. While this might apply to places like Cuba or some other 3rd world dump this is not how its going to happen in the US. And the only reason that those work in those 3rd world dumps is because they're pretty much always in some sort of state of chaos. The tyranny is going to come from our government. Not from militias.

    Kinda weird here. The guy talks about being wary of paramilitaries and yet encourages those in service to act like a paramilitary if they don't like what they are told to do.

    Right now I'd say this applies to both sides. And neither. Just depends on the situation. If you don't follow what The Party says then you get ostracized. Sinema, Romney for examples.

    HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

    Both sides are adhering to their own "truths".

    Good advice. Unfortunately most people won't do this. From either side.

    We're definitely in the "culture of denunciation". From both sides.

    Applies to both sides.

    NSA, Doxxing... I'd say that the left violates this more than the right. However both sides do this.

    This applies to both sides.

    This is a left thing. Most conservatives don't care what goes on in the world.

    Both sides do this. However with the recent Garland thing and blowing 1/6 way out of proportion I'd have to say that the left uses these words more than the right. But even if we don't take those two things into account I'd still have to say that the left does this more than the right. They've been calling those on the right extreme things for decades now. Don't get me wrong, the right does this to. Just not near as much.

    This has to apply to the left. They're the ones screaming about about how the other side is extremists, terrorists etc etc.

    I'm sure that both sides think that they are being patriotic.

    Well, most in the military are conservative leaning. So this would apply to conservatives more than those on the left.
     
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    That's not remotely true. What State are you talking about? I live in Colorado, only registered voters get a ballot, they must be signed, that signature is checked against the signature on your registration, if it is questionable the voter is contacted for resolution. We almost no attempted fraud and near zero success's.

    You try GOOGLE, it's your claim.
     
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    I did, months ago - the information is there. Good luck.
     
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    A power grab? Isn't that just what the Democrats are wanting to do? Why do you want to add several more judges to the USSC? To control it that's why.

    Why are you flooding our country with millions of illegals and refugees? Future Democratic voters. Plus for every 750,000 illegals or refugees they get in a district, that gives them a new Congressman. We have between 11-20 million illegals here now, how many Congressmen did they get out of that?

    Why are they wanting to make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states? Puerto Rico has turned down statehood at least four times before. It's to get four new Senators and several more Congressmen, so they can control all three branches of government and you say the Republicans want a power grab? The Big Lie is on the Democrats. Same as them constantly calling Republicans racist. Keep accusing the other side of what your doing and you'll convince people it's true and get away with it. It's like throwing enough **** on the wall and having a lot stick.
     
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    So, you're posting opinions ... again. :roll:
     
  8. Durandal

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    I'm not a Democrat.

    As for adding more judges to the Supreme Court, look at how Republicans have cheated to stack it. That ******* McConnell refused to let Obama appoint a judge, then hypocritically allowed Trump to do so under the same circumstances. And that's just one way they've been cheating lately. Now they're overtly rigging the electoral system at the state level to allow partisan legislatures to go against the popular vote in the state. Simply appalling, and done on the basis of a pernicious lie about the last election.

    Democrats are not "flooding our country" with illegals and refugees, either. Refugees have internationally recognized rights. They and illegals are being dealt with in accordance with the law. This administration has been keeping them out and deporting them the same as previous administrations. Anyway, it's not like Latin Americans all vote Democrat. See Florida.

    There are definitely reasons for making DC and Puerto Rico states that have nothing to do with which way they might go in the presidential race. Furthermore, Republicans could try appealing to more people instead of fewer the way they have been doing if they're worried about how immigrants or citizens of newly minted states might vote. As it is, they serve wealthy and corporate interests while using increasingly negative propaganda and misinformation to appeal to increasingly misinformed, radicalized voters in primarily rural counties.

    "Keep accusing the other side of what [you're] doing and you'll convince people it's true and get away with it. It's like throwing enough **** on the wall and having a lot stick." That's in the GOP playbook, of course, not something I see Democrats doing.
     
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    Trump had the right to appoint those judges. Vacancies came open. You didn't see him wanting to appoint 2-4 new judges just to make sure he had more Conservative judges than the Democrats say they want to do.

    refugees are to go to the first country that will take them in. These are passing those countries up to come to America because Trump said we could take in two million a yesr. He has all but invited them in.

    As I said before, Puerto Rico over the years has turned down state hood four times. There is only one reason the Democrats want to make those two states and that's to get four more Senators. They aren't fooling anyone. Everything they do is to get more and more power so they can hold it for decades. One state was giving out Democratic registration forms in gift baskets to refugees as they arrived in their state
     
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    i appreciate that you did analyze that list, but i do have a few issues.

    1. civil disobedience is often practiced by we on the left. resistance to the drug war, to draft registration and to war in general are examples.

    4. symbols. every side has its symbols, but the right with its flag worship, and confederate and trump flags, and its gadsden flag etc seem very over the top. the left is more likely to carry signs than flags,

    5. professional ethics. i think snyder is talking about all professions. scientists who manipulate data or lawyers who file frivolous suits or doctors who overbill medicare kind of things. i would rather lose a job than manipulate data or falsify evidence.

    6. armed paramilitaries are almost exclusively on the right. oath keepers, boogaloo moys, proud boys, army of god etc etc etc.
     
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    But you seem to be fine with telling women what to do with their bodies when it comes to vaccines. Republicans have, and always will be, for the right of EVERYONE who is eligible to vote, voting. In fact, I know of no cases where Republicans refused to let people vote who are legally eligible to vote. But, we're not going to make it so easy to vote that people who aren't eligible to vote can vote. People must be able to prove they are eligible.
     
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    Hardly what we witnessed over the last two years and presently. What we see is looting and destruction of private property and opportunistic theft..
    civil disobedience
    Signs LOL
    [​IMG]

    So much better :)

    Good example
    COVID-19 Disinformation | Union of Concerned Scientists (ucsusa.org)

    And yet as a life long biker I have meet very few of these folks or organizations you and most leftist speak of, doubtful and willing to bet you have met many in your 66 years :) On the other hand I have walked and drove thru DNC Ghettos with 100's of very dangerous armed and territorial Black, Latino, Asian, South Americans gangs

    Cleary your vast knowledge of "Good and Bad" starts and ends with a Coca-Cola commercial and several visits of left leaning websites ;)
     
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    It Can Happen Here: Expert On Tyranny Warns Of GOP Extremism

    You forgot to include the words "partisan leftist" in front of "expert."
     
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    What's a "leftist"?
     
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    I look forward to the retirement of several GOPers, when they no longer have Trump or their followers to fear. Then we'll hear what they REALLY think
     
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    Tyranny?

    Meanwhile get your vaccine or be considered a second class citizen...
     
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    Sorry man, but what a total crock of nonsense. If there was any credence or viability to this, you have two things going against your 'belief'.
    1. Trump Admin was still in power and could not prove any material fraud
    2. Any 'evidence' provided to the American courts was summarily dismissed as BS.
     
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    It's OUR CHOICE and don't let them pushing you stop you from getting it if in your own personal case getting vaccinated is a prudent decision.

    Study: People vaccinated against COVID less likely to die of other causes
    You have my full attention.
    Damn! An 11 million person sample size is significant.

    So Death reduction from ALL causes:
    Pfizer - 66% reduction
    Moderna - 69% reduction
    J & J - 46% reduction.

    If that holds up, that's pretty incredible. I'd like to understand the mechanism. @CenterField, do you have any insight on this?
     
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    Only if you're standing on your head and looking through the wrong end of a telescope. And completely ignoring everything that came before 1/6
     
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    Ah, so ignore everything because the courts were to timid to allow lawsuits.
     
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    Sorry no they were never even allowed to present it in most cases.
     
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    Ambiguous? I don't think that word means what you think it does.
     
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    Yes, it means exactly what I think it does.
     

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