It doesn't matter where the Drone was. This is what we should be creeping out about

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Except there you are talking about nation building again.

    You destroy their infrastructure and their leaders, and their military, deny them their resources, and then leave.
    The only one talking about nation building is you.
     
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    Obama was elected by whom?
     
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    Doesn't matter a damn, legally. It matters if and only if the Senate signs off on it. Obama never gave it a chance because he knew even very few senate dems were going to risk there careers over a treaty that they knew wasn't going to pass anyway.
     
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    The war with Iran is more likely than ever.

    So Obama was right.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Nope Obama was wrong. There is sadly too much of another "Proud Tower" moment to the coming night mare and this one is erected in Tehran and Obama contributed to it he didn't delay it or slow it down. He merely made it almost inevitable.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    s'all they got.
     
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    Obviously, you are ignoring all the other countries that have signed this agreement with Iran.

    An agreement that has NEVER been violated, because three international agencies monitor Iran's nuclear reactors on a daily basis.

    Trump tore up this deal only because it was an Obama success story.

    And as with Iraq in 2003, the Conservatives swallow absolutely everything their President says, proof that thanks to them, history's mistakes are repeated over and over again.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it wasn't a signed agreement. Iran didn't even sign it.

    No, it wasn't a return of "Iran's own money". It was giving the money of the previous owner to the people who overthrew the government and imposed an authoritarian regime.

    If someone steals your car and wrecks it the insurance company doesn't pay the thief.

    He tore it up, because the morons you listen to are the reason both North Korea and Iran have nuclear weapons, or will soon.

    I'll call it what it is: stupid leftists who think paying the barbarians at the gate keeps them safe, like every city sacked, ever.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't handle facts.

    Obama set up a non-signed, non-binding agreement with Iran that couldn't get congressional approval and secretly funneled billions of dollars of money stolen from the Shah's government, and breaking US sanctions and banking laws to do it.

    And the left claps like seals.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This one post should show all just how gullible Americans are...
     
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    This is the Jews War, not Americans...
     
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    I say we take out another milk factory, that will show them...
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for admitting that Iran plans to start a war with Israel, in addition to all it's other global terrorism.
     
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    If you think we had a "deal" before then you give credibility to the word of the Iranian regime. I could never do that. Thanks Obama.
     
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    So "death to America" is not an issue?
     
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    Yes Iran signed it.
    It was Iran's money.
    Which car did they steal and what claim did they make, with whom?
    He tore it up, reneging on a deal that was being adhered to. The actual morons don't think its a big deal for America to break international agreements on a vindictive whim.

    Unfortunately its the barbarian in the white house that the stupid rightists think can guard their gates and keep them safe from themselves, let alone midget enemies thousands of miles away.
     
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    No, it was a not a legally binding document.

    No, it was the overthrown by a coup's government money.

    He could tear it up because even Democrats didn't vote for it.

    Sure. Please continue your plan to fund global terrorism and nuclear weapons to "death to America".

    I'm sure that will end well.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just responded to his comment about the Jews.

    Of course it's an issue.

    How many Americans has Iran killed or helped kill?
     
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    LOL, So Bush and Cheney devised a lie... and the democrats who supported it are exempt, and every other nation who stood with us knew we were wrong, but did so just to support our alliance.

    Good lord. The revisionist history and mental cart-wheels to make these claims is astounding.
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    O yeah sure. Super gullible over here chief.
     
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    Which is accomplished in total war by killing anyone who would be doing that......

    Nation building is about sticking around to reform the government of the nation you just conquered.
    That's not what our military is cut out for. They are a big mean vicious attack dog to be released on a target you want destroyed utterly, not a babysitter or a policeman. Each of those positions has their usefulness, their value, and trying to interchange them often leads to non-preferred results.
     
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    Why do you make up stuff just to make a silly point. Every government and every intelligence agency we dealt with affirmed and avowed that Saddam had WMDs.
     
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    Yes it was.


    quote]No, it was the overthrown by a coup's government money. [/quote]

    Huh? Was it a coup of the people? Was the money in fact the Iranian people's money?

    Sure thing, yet another clustermuck of his own devise to blame on dems.

    Wow, biggest military in history. Loudest mouths on the planet. Record of serial bullying and waging war and yet trumpettes are paranoid about how a relative flea can destroy the greatest most powerful nation in history.

    Empirical data has demonstrated that the biggest snowflakes are usually also the biggest bullies and loud mouth "tough guys".
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whoa whoa whoa there cowboy... I don't know what you're drinking but it's gotten you into some crazy trip in which you're debating yourself... and losing!
     
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