It wasn't a hoax

Vacuous allegations do not comprise a counter argument.

Anyone can say anything, just as you have done. There is NO substance to your vacuous claims.

Now, for some real substance:

No Democrat hired a foreign agent. Got that? You have no proof to counter this.

Per Horowitz IG report:

https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/o20012.pdf

...Steele's reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.

 

So all the evidence is there but the left is too stupid to prove it?

 

How difficult is it for your to understand the following:

MSNBC and FOX are platforms.

Both have hosts that are reliable, and some less reliable.

Tucker Carlson is not reliable, and I would ignore anything by him.

But, Chris Wallace is more reliable, so I would use clips with him in it.

On MSNBC, Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough are very reliable.

Moreover, the video in question, all it does is quote David Frum, who is a conservative.

so what is your ****ing problem? I"ll tell you what it is: it is some arbitrary bullshit that you seriously need to rethink.

 

No, a republican proved it, a republican named Robert Mueller.

 

So heres what we know
1. According to Mueller, there is no evidence that supports Trump or his campaign conspiring with Russia to effect the outcome of the election
2. Mueller couldn't provide a single criminal claim to the AG for impeachment
3. There were no accusations in any impeachment trial about Trump conspiring with Russia

Sorry, these fake claims lose again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again

 

No, it wasn't. But even it it were, the Mueller report confirmed the most salient claim by the Dossier, that

The Mueller Report concluded that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election did occur "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law".[139][140]

So, even it it were, so? You are saying the Dossier is fake? No, it's raw intell, and the basis for the investigation has been confirmed. So what is the problem?

But it's really a moot point. CH was taken over by Mueller as SC imitated by Rosenstein, a Trump appointee and the Dossier had nothing to do with it, and, in fact, Carter Page took up only a few pages of the 500 page report.

But, again, even if it were, again, who cares? Why?

Because:

The [IG] report found that the FBI's investigation had a factual basis and was initiated for an authorized purpose,

That is all that matters.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_Hurricane_(FBI_investigation)
On December 9, 2019, Horowitz released his report on the findings of the DOJ OIG investigation. The OIG found no indication that the investigation of Trump and Russia was motivated by political bias, but did make 17 "basic and fundamental" errors and omissions in its warrant applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to surveil Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser on the Trump campaign.[157][5][158][159][160] The report found that the FBI's investigation had a factual basis and was initiated for an authorized purpose,[159] stating: "We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced" the agency's decision to open the investigation.[161] The report did, however, criticize the FBI for mistakes related to the FBI's application to the FISA Court for a warrant to wiretap Carter Page, and found that in one application to renew the FISA warrant, an FBI lawyer had altered an email from a CIA liaison to make it appear Page had not been a source for the CIA,[159] although Page had in fact "been approved as an operational contact for the [CIA] from 2008 to 2013".[161][1] The report did not speculate on whether the warrant application would have been rejected had "any particular misstatement or omission, or some combination thereof" been corrected.[159] During Senate testimony after the report's release, Horowitz attributed the warrant problems to "gross incompetence and negligence" rather than intentional malfeasance or political bias,[4] and stated: "The activities we found don't vindicate anyone who touched this. The actions of FBI agents were not up to the standards of the FBI."[162] As a result of the findings, Horowitz announced a broader review of the FBI's FISA warrant application process, to study whether problems with the process are systemic.[159]

The report debunked claims, promoted by Trump and his allies, that the Steele dossier had prompted the Russia investigation, and reiterated that the FBI investigation had in fact started in late July 2016, based on a tip from Australian officials regarding Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.[3] The report also refuted Trump's assertions that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page had initiated the investigation; that decision was made by William Priestap, the assistant FBI director for the Counterintelligence Division.[163] The report criticized the FBI, however, for relying on information from the Steele dossier even though one of Steele's sources told the agency that his statements had been mischaracterized or exaggerated.[5][3] The OIG investigation found no support for Trump's claims that President Obama had ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower.[3] The OIG also found no support for Trump's claims that the FBI had implanted a "spy" within his 2016 campaign,[3] finding "no documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivations influenced the FBI's decision" to use informants (known within the FBI as "confidential human sources" or "undercover employees") "to interact with Trump campaign officials in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation".[163]

 

No fake documents, just raw intel.

The investigation was not predicated on the dossier.

 

Mueller specifically stated that if the report exonerated him, he would ahve so stated.

He did not so state.

There was plenty in the report to impeach Trump on, in the obstruction section volume II.

 

Not a counter argument.

Try again.

 

Describes own post

 

KTM is not a valid counter argument.

If you were talking about Alex Jones, sure, but not Mika, Joe, or David.

Frum provides an very illuminated article, and it has merit. If you choose to ignore, then why waste our time with a non argument and rant about the media, the eternal right wing boogyman that has never amounted to a merit worthy argument, as they cling to such poop heaps as Gatewaypundit.

Trump is very much around, and he's doing rallies and appears to be running, and, as such, is fair game.

Traitor? Trump and his minions attacked the capitol and you have the gall to use the word 'traitor'?

Joe is a conservative, David is a conservative, Mika is a dem, but a moderate dem.

That joe and david are conservative is a fact, and one of the few bona fide conservatives left. Trump et al have gone off the rails and into the crazy zone.

 

Like I said, you can't be taken seriously.

You are dismissed.

 

Look at your sig, proof that you can't be taken seriously.

 

Look at the overall tone of your post and one can say say the same exact thing!


When you can't rebut the post itself just make personal comments

 

Patrick .. don't go away sad now .. not my fault FBI bin doin "Hanky Panky"

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pr...ly-undercut-steele-dossier-page-fisa-warrants

Oh what a tangled web of deceit ..

Yes .. supposed to stop investigating on learning about these lies .. but continue they did. .. Hanky Panky ..

Don't shoot the messenger mate .. Name calling and Ad Hom fallacy will not change the message.

 

MSNBC picks and chooses what they chose to put out. Find someone other than MSNBC.

 

That would mean if the report convicted him, he would have so stated.
But you feel for that? lol

So Democrats are just dumb? Not smart enough to figure that out?

 

He did? How many criminal recommendations did he make to the AG?
And just for your information, Democrats impeached Trump, not Republicans. So how many claims did they make in their impeachments out of Muellers report? NOTHING? lol

 

The spying on the Trump campaign started with a spy called Mifsud. All this happened overseas because our government can't spy on Americans on US soil...

The FBI part of the investigation was started overseas with George Papadopoulos being approached by spy Joseph Mifsud... Mifsud fed a garbage story to him about "dirt" on Hillary that the Russian had.. Who would have thunk that after Hillary had an unauthorized and unsecured server with the US's most sensitive and SAP material on it...

Joseph Mifsud was a spy working for the US, not a Russian agent and worked at the Link University in Rome and the London Center of International Law Practice (LCILP) — two academic groups with ties to Western diplomacy and intelligence and a western intelligence spying training center.

""No Democrat hired a foreign agent. Got that? You have no proof to counter this"".
Steele was a foreigner hired by proxy ... You have no proof to counter this.

 

Please tell us what was the "dirt" the Russians had on Hillary.

 

You have yet to fail to put pages of crap on here that 3 words could cover.

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"""The Mueller Report concluded that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election did occur "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law".[139][140]"""

The Mueller Report DID NOT conclude that Russia and the Trump Campaign collusion occurred in the 2016 presidential election.

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""But it's really a moot point. CH was taken over by Mueller as SC imitated by Rosenstein, a Trump appointee and the Dossier had nothing to do with it, and, in fact, Carter Page took up only a few pages of the 500 page report.""""""

Well sport.... exactly how do you think they got a foot hold into the Trump campaign communications... The FISA warrant enabled the DOJ the use the "two hop " rule... Look it up... educate yourself.

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"""The [IG] report found that the FBI's investigation had a factual basis and was initiated for an authorized purpose,""

Please explain what that factual basis was...

 

Please answer the very question you have been dancing around throughout this post and not answered..

In your words.... what started the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

 

Please show us were it was Muellers's job to exonerate Trump... I have never know it to be a prosecutor's job to exonerate the accused. They would simply not indict. Mueller did not indict Trump.

 

"""There was plenty in the report to impeach Trump on, in the obstruction section volume II""
How can you comment on something you have never seen?... Mueller's report was "obstructed" by Trump and could never have possibly been published?..

 

Mika is even dumber than Brooks.

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