It's Hope Hicks and Annie Donaldson's time in the barrel.

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Mueller and the democrats have removed all doubts for me. Trump's innocent of all the allegations and I'll be re-electing Trump next year. After Trump's 2nd inauguration maybe I'll resurrect your Oct 6 2016 thread "voter remorse" ... no one paid attention, but it sure is funny.
     
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  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No he could not. No you did not read it!

    Well.... if you read it, you didn't understand it.

    Third, we considered whether to evaluate the conduct we investigated under the Justice Manual standards governing prosecution and declination decisions, but we determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the President committed crimes. The threshold step under the Justice Manual standards is to assess whether a person's conduct "constitutes a federal offense." U.S. Dep't of Justice, Justice Manual§ 9-27.220 (2018)(Justice Manual). Fairness concerns counseled against potentially reaching that judgment when no charges can be brought.
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    Although a prosecutor's internal report would not represent a formal public accusation akin to an indictment, the possibility of the report 's public disclosure and the absence of a neutral adjudicatory forum to review its findings counseled against potentially determining "that the person's conduct constitutes a federal offense ." Justice Manual § 9-27.220.
    This is on page 2 of the report. So even before the investigation began, they determined that the fact that a sitting President could not be indicted meant that he couldn't even be accused of a crime in the report.

    All they could do was lay out the facts. And that's what they did.
     
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  3. struth

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    They could they determined not to, because they couldn’t determine a crime was made. The opposite of Starr investigation. The manual states they can’t accuse someone without evidence.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What nonsense! You are and have always been a faithful cult member. You made up your mind the second you sold your soul to the child-separation damned-be-the-constitution oversight-shmolersight cult
     
  5. PrincipleInvestment

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    Sorry ... but there's not enough oxygen in your bubble for a prolonged debate about your hopes and dreams. You've been hoping and dreaming for years. The obvious "cult" comparison relates to your religious devotion to Russiagate. Just like a doomsday cult prophet, you've repeatedly had to recalculate your doomsday calandar, because doomsday never comes.:heartbreaker:
     
  6. Golem

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    BTW, I forgot about that post. Just looked it up. It was a pretty good post. I was very active on another list at the time and completely forgot about it. Prophetic, wasn't it?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Uhmmm..... no. This was determined at the start of the investigation. Before they determined.... anything.

    We first describe the considerations that guided our obstruction-of-justice investigation,and then provide an overview of this Volume:
    Try again...

    How can you say you read the report? This is the very start of Volume 1!!
     
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  8. PrincipleInvestment

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    Well except for Teresa May's fortunes, and Trump's too ... sure, spot on.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    My only hope and dream is a President who doesn't break the law and lie every time they open their mouth. That's how low Trump has set the bar.

    In normal times I would say it would be nice if we had one that I agree with ideologically, but that is most definitely far from a priority. Reasonable level of honesty, competence, vision and clarity is far more important. I don't care what political party they belong to.

    In other words, the exact opposite of Trump.
     
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    Oh... you mean because I didn't predict Trump's transgressions to the emoluments clause? That's true...
     
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    Um he didn’t write the report until the end of the in investigation where he didn’t term a crime was committed
     
  12. PrincipleInvestment

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    What you DID predict actually. Voter remorse for Brexit / Trump that didn't happen. Brits have more remorse about Teresa May's becoming PM than Brexit. Trump's popularity hasn't declined at all either. You're extremely remorseful ... but that's an unremarkable prediction IMO.
     
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    Are you not reading? It doesn't matter when he wrote the report. What "guides the investigation" is obviously determined at the beginning. Not at the end.
     
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    Of course it happened! Case of Trump I'm talking about Democrats who didn't vote or voted for Trump. There is great remorse.

    As for Brexit... Of course there is remorse! Even now they don't know how to Brexit
     
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    Way to spin your own predictions! :thumbsup: You haven't read your report! :roflol:
     
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    Yeah I read the entire report.
    sounds like they are simply saying we are first describing...you know outlying the document that you and your friends have. Hard time understanding.
     
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    What law did he break and why wasn't a criminal investigation opened when he broke it? Mueller's job was to turn a counter-intelligence assignment into dozens of process crimes by bankrupting Trump associates into guilty pleas.
     
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    The deference Mueller gave to the Orange Turd, when you see it in writing, is just stunning when one considers the false accusations and personal insults said Turd spewed at Mueller and his team almost from the beginning of his investigation.
     
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    Spin? Oh... I see you actually didn't understand my post. That is hilarious. I have no idea what it is you thought I was saying, though.
     
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    You should stop saying that. It's better that people think you didn't read it rather than that you read it but didn't understand it.
     
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    Because Trump put his personal attorney as head of the Department of Justice!

    But wait! There like... sixteen or something criminal investigations of Trump
     
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    Trump has recused himself from being President until the mean Democrats stop picking on him. What a sissy boy. Clinton was working with Gingrich (who was hard at work trying to impeach him) up to and right through his impeachment. Nixon worked with the Democrats on important legislation right up to the time he resigned. Trump is proving to be a thin skinned snowflake. If he can’t take the heat, he ought to get out of the kitchen.
     
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    LOL, they testified to Mueller so what do you think the dem clown show will uncover?
     
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    Hahahah that cute...did Rachael maddow give you that?
     
  25. PrincipleInvestment

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    Lolz ... Pelosi was the only on at the meeting that left emotionally traumatized. :roflol: Trump musta "micro-targeted" his "micro-aggressions" specifically for delicate Nancy Pelosi. :eek:
     

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