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It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording,

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by DevilMayhem666, Mar 31, 2012.

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  1. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

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    For the rest:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-george-zimmerman-911-20120331,0,250481.story
     
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    True...but being that he ruled out Zimmerman would you admit that it is safe to assume it is Martin's voice?
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    If Martins results come back similar... No.
     
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    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Didn't you know there was a 3rd person out there that night and he was doing all of the screaming.
     
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    you do know that it was a trick question and that the logical answer is "Yes" right?

    wtf...if it wasn't TM or GZ then who was it?

    Jesus Christ. I understand skepticism but skepticism tends to rely heavily on logic...logic dictates that if A and B are the only two plausible people to do C and A was ruled out then it is most likely B.
     
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    If its not Zimmermans voice and they test Martins voice and it gets similar votes there are two options

    1) The testing is not conclusive
    2) Someone else is screaming

    Pretty simple logic.
     
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    I asked you if it was safe to assume that if it wasn't George then it must be Trayvon...

    The answer to that question is yes...and if you care to expound further the correct answer is "Yes, but I think more testing is required before we jump to conclusions."
     
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    If you have two independent experts claiming its not Zimmerman's voice then the only other logical conclusion would be its Trayvon's since they were the only two involved.
     
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    No that is not what i said. I said if they test Martin and it gets the same results..... Read.
     
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    You have 100% proof there were only two people involved? No one else was close by? Do you really think that would hold up in trial?
     
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    So you are saying Zimmerman was trying to kill another black kid.
     
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    The Zimmerman defenders will NEVER admit anything is logical. Dorks
     
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    Talk about strawmen...... Again. If they test Martins voice and it comes back with similar results then there are only two options. The testing is unconclusive or someone else was screaming. Any defense lawyer worth his salt is going to argue it that way. Reasonable doubt.
     
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    Who is defending Zimmerman? I am talking basic logic here. If you test one voice you should test both.
     
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    You seem to fully trust this analysis because it agrees with your preconceived notions.

    The forensic testing should be done against both voices. If one is eliminated and the other is confirmed, the results can be better trusted. If both are eliminated, the test would be invalidated.
     
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    Someone else that thinks with logic and not emotion. Kudos.
     
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    Did you play in the Wizard of Oz?

    Again, if a frog had a glass ass it would break everytime he jumps.
     
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    In a perfect world, but the teen is dead.

    If the test is 90% conclusive that the voice crying for help is NOT George Zimmerman, then, considering the timing of the events, the test and basic logic suggests there is about a 90% chance the voice belongs to the dead teen.

    I have been of the opinion, from the release of the record, that the voice crying for help did not sound like a 28 year old man. My opinion means zip
     
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    no he doesn't. you just want to find a lousy excuse.
     
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    I'm sorry basic logic upsets you. Its easier for you just to assume that someone that doesnt jump to conclusions and want Zimmerman dead is racist or some bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I have never defended Zimmerman. I have called for him to be arrested and for there to be a trial. I have also called for patience and waiting for the facts to come out. So drop the emotional and child like replies and talk to me like a rational person.
     
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    You have no idea what you are talking about. Read what i have typed instead of some preconcieved notion that if i am not looking for Zimmerman to be shot dead that i am some how not looking for "Justice"
     
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    I know of noone on the PF that has tried and convinced Zimmerman. As I continue to state, Zimmerman's innocence or guilt must be determined by a trier of fact
     
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    Why would it upset me, I have yet to hear you use any.

    I don't recall calling you a racist, dumbass maybe not a racist.

    Is that you Texmaster.

    As have many.

    Would you be patient if your son was murdered and his killer was still walking around free?

    A rational person would want Justice, now tell me what is child like about that.
     
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