"It's Okay To Be White" flyers found on local university campus

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see no issue with it... I would bet the ones putting them up were racist, but still the sign itself is not racist in anyway shape or form, it is okay to be white, it's okay to be black too

    when one looks at the sign, they should just say, yep, that is okay and move on
     
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  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, ok to be those too, just like Atheist, Liberal, Jewish, Mormon, Muslim, LGBTQ, the list goes on... all are okay
     
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    Its OK to be white, its just not OK to say it.

    Because feels.
     
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    It is in my opinion.

    I don't know how much you keep up with current entertainment with movies and games and whatnot but it's no longer a gradual shift it's downright blatant at this point. The entertainment industry is doing just flat out blatant stuff like taking traditional household named movie characters and just rebooting them as minorities and if you dare even raise your hand about that then you're a bigot and they'll tear you apart.

    The Little Mermaid is black now I guess and the new 007 is a black woman apparently. I read about this stuff all the time on other forums and when the new James Bond was announced and somebody made the grave mistake of asking about it. He was met with responses such as "Why do you care!". And apparently the appropriate response to that question in 2019 is not "Uh...because James Bond is a white guy" lol...

    Hell MTV ran a New Years Ad a few years ago that had a bunch of random young people on screen telling white men to basically just shut the hell up lol....



    I'm laughing because this is so ridiculous that it's actually funny. But In all seriousness I try to be objectionable and look at this from outside the box.

    If an actual TV network ran an ad like that against black people then yes that would piss me off. That's not a "spoof" ad, they literally ran that.

    I can absolutely see how a straight white man right now could be just a little bit irritated with whats going on in society.
     
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    The phenomenon you are describing is make-believe. Basically, the people who used to bully the blacks and the gays are upset that their position is now in the minority. So they make up a fantasy about them being the victim in all of this. It is classic juvenile behavior. When a child has done something wrong, he or she tries to play the victim to avoid facing the truth that he or she was in the wrong.
     
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    Meh. Is the black woman 007 a lesbian? Im guessing their ratings for a 007 that isn't 'getting the girl' are going to tank (and they'll of course scream bigotry). But if the black chick 007 is having some steamy love scenes with other vixens, I project records breaking at the box office.

    I already have to 'suspend my disbelief' for those action/adventure movies. I got no problem with a woman doing stuff that its already impossible for a man to do.

    She better have a scottish, or at least european accent though. Otherwise they should call it something else and start a new brand.
     
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    Never apologize for being white...

    Black Pride...OK
    Brown Pride...OK
    Yellow Pride...OK


    White Pride..."You damned racist Bastard".
     
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    Hogwash, SJW, claptrap BS.
     
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    You don't need to be here and you don't need to read this thread.
     
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    What else did these flyers say?
     
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    No not any more than the subliminal messaging behind black lives matter is that white ones don't.

    You people twist yourselves into some funky knots
     
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    I believe you are painting with a very broad stroked brush here. It's not just bully's who are being "targeted" with this sort of thing. It's "white men", and yes while from a broad societal historical standpoint it was "white men" doing the bullying to virtually everybody else including white women. But I am absolutely not in favor of an "Our turn now" sort of mentality.

    Yes throughout American, and pretty much Western history it was white men who held virtually all of the social and economic power. I don't feel like the appropriate response today is to treat current white men the way white men treated my black father in society decades ago just because we "can" now. Am I saying that white men are getting anything resembling Jim Crow esque treatment right now? No of course not. But am I seeing some people being made to feel as though they are bad due to the color of their skin? Yes I am.

    As I said, I'm older perhaps I am out of touch with these college aged folks. But from my perspective what I am continuously seeing around me right now is disturbingly close to discrimination and ill will towards a group of people for no other reason than because of their race and gender. A lot of what I'm seeing looks like "My turn now" and I don't like that at all.
     
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    Exactly.:salute:
     
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    I am a white dude and I do not feel remotely targeted by "this sort of thing" or whatever you might be imagining. Basically, society is recognizing in increasing numbers that it was wrong to marginalize blacks and gays. As a white heterosexual man, this does not make me feel ashamed. Not. One. Bit.
    Neither do I. I'm sure there are a few fringes out there who think we should oppress hetero white males, but I don't see that idea ever becoming a majority opinion.

    Well I think you're seeing things. Where do you see this being exhibited beyond the fringes? As I said, I am a white hetero male and this new woke culture has never made me feel bad about that.

    Where are you seeing this? I think you're seeing things. And frankly, when people see things that aren't there, it reeks of animus. That is, I am very suspicious of the motives of white people who think they are being victimized because they are so clearly not being vicitmized.
     
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    Black lives matter is a response (though I prefer to call it an overreaction) to a perceived increase in excessive force against blacks by the police. Basically, black people are understandably very suspicious and sensitive whenever a story breaks about a black kid getting killed by a cop. They tend to overreact, ignore the facts, and make all assumptions in favor of the victim.

    But white lives matter is just a big **** you to black lives matter. Nobody thinks that white people are being disproportionately targeted by the cops.
     
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    The people?! What do you mean THE PEOPLE?!

    Sounds like you're stereotyping an entire demographic of people based on their immutable characteristics over the actions of a few.
     
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    Brilliant analysis as always.
     
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    By "the people," I mean "the people who used to bully the blacks and the gays." You might try reading the rest of the sentence next time.
    "the people who used to bully the blacks and the gays" are exactly the people I'm targeting.
     
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    I don't know anything about the movie other than that.

    I don't personally care about anything like that to be honest. I personally have way better things to do than worry about the fact the James Bond is now a black chick for some reason. My point is that it's being forced at this point and it's being forced at the barrel of a proverbial gun and ANYBODY who says something about it is torn apart immediately.

    For me maybe I just don't "get it" but I sit back and ask "Why?" The Little Mermaid is a little teenage (I think) redheaded white girl, what is the actual point in just making her a black girl now? The James Bond thing is different I think because I'm pretty sure "James Bond" dies and the black woman doesn't actually become James Bond (obviously) but rather just takes the 007 tag thing. But even with that I sit back and think why? Why not just make a spin off and call her 008 or something? Why just change the established character to a black woman?

    Then folks look at me like a bigot (because nobody can tell what race I am on the internet) and say things like "Why do you care what race the character is!" And I sit here with my mind going "Because that's what race they are? Is a bad thing for me to prefer they stay that way?"

    Again I just try to reverse the script with most things and see how I'd think if things were the other way around. I obviously can't "gatekeep" popular shows or movies or anything but my all time favorite Sitcom is the 70s show Sanford and Son. Silly show about a poor black father and son junkyard in Watts during the 70s. I've seriously seen every episode like 500 times over the years. If I read an announcement that they were going to reboot the series tomorrow I would be pretty thrilled. But if I read the article and it said they cast Robert De Niro as the dad and Tom Cruise as the son I'd be like wait a minute what the hell is this? Fred Sanford isn't white. And if somebody said "Who says he can;t be white?" I'd be like hell I don't know...the show? He's black....

    But if that actually happened, people would LOSE IT, and they know it. Go ahead and reboot the Fresh Prince of Bel Air and make the whole family white and see how society reacts. But we as a society have unofficially deemed it "ok" to do that the other way around. Why? I don't like the notion that it's ok to do something in some regards but not ok to do it the other way around.
     
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    I put in the same effort as I responded to. Your opinion noted.
     
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    Well I for one am glad you do not feel that way and perhaps I am just seeing things. Or perhaps an overly vocal minority of "Shame on white people time" folks are screaming the loudest on the internet which is where I get most of my news. Perhaps it is due to the fact that I do know what discrimination looks and feels like having been a victim of it before and my radar is on high alert and is pinging false positives.

    However, perhaps I am thin skinned or something but if I read an article in the media about a movie asking "Why are there so many black people in this" then that would concern me. Or if a major media outlet ran an ad on TV that I posted earlier and started out with "Hey black people, it's about to be a new year, and there's a few things we think you can do a little bit better in 2017" and then went on to have a bunch of people say what black people are doing "wrong" then I would have a problem with that. And I'm pretty sure a whole lot of other folks would too.

    I mean let's just take that ad and break down the first few seconds of it and replace all the "white guy" stuff with "black guy" stuff.

    "Hey fellow black guys! It's about to be a new year, and here's a few things we think you can do a little bit better in 2017"
    "First off, try to recognize that you still lived better in America under Jim Crow than you would have in Africa"
    "Can we all just agree that All Lives Matter is not the opposite of Black Lives Matter? All lives just matter, there is no need to over complicate it"
    "Stop saying the N word to each other"
    "We all love Carrie Underwood, and yeah shes white so of course she cares about white issues..."
    "Feel free to take Eminem though, you guys can have him"

    I don't have to continue with that. But honestly, do you think society would accept it if CMT ran that as an ad on national TV? I didn't change anything, I just changed the target "group".

    Why the hell is it ok in the eyes of society to run an ad like that? Or say things like that? I can't speak on your behalf obviously nor can I exactly "relate" seeing how I'm not white. But I know for a fact that if I saw an ad on TV that started off with what I came up with then I would have a problem with that. Me and pretty much everybody else in society. But it's "ok" if we flip it around, why?
     
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    Says WHO?

    Some marginal fringe candidate who is a complete joke (with between 1 & 2% of the Dem. Primary Polling)?

    Totally LMAO at that "characterization".

    Great audition for Last Comic Standing. :bored:

    WRONG. :bored:
     
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    you can make up some ulterior meaning to it's okay to be white therefore I can do the same with black lives matter.
    Black lives matter implies that other ones don't.

    If you disagree with that you aren't being logically consistent.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Links please.

    And hopefully you aren't going to cite the SPLC or some other leftist activist organization.
     
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