James Clapper Admits to ‘Spying’ from Inside the Trump Campaign

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  1. Wehrwolfen

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    By John Nolte
    23 May 18

    During a Tuesday appearance on the View, no less than the former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper described what was done by the Obama administration to Donald’s Trump campaign as “spying.”
    Although Clapper said he does not like the word “spying” (considering how the disclosure of this spying has blown up in the Obama administration’s face, who can blame him?), he still used the word twice — because there is no other word.
    Sounding rattled and defensive, even though he was among friends, Clapper, a left-wing partisan who served as DNI during the Obama administration, attempted to spin the “spying” into something that was for Trump’s own good and the good of the country.
    “With the informant business, well, the point here is the Russians,” Clapper volunteered. “Not spying on the campaign but what are the Russians doing? And in a sense, unfortunately, what they were trying to do is protect our political system and protect the campaign.”
    View co-host Joy Behar asked, “Trump … claims it’s spying. Other people say it’s a whistleblower or informant — he says it’s spying, it’s bigger than Watergate. So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump’s campaign?”
    Again describing what happened as “spying,” Clapper said the “spying” was done on the Russians, not on the Trump campaign (as I will explain below, this is simply not true).
    ~Snip~
    Predictably, though, the establishment media and their confederates in the Deep State are always more than willing to look stupid and petty in service to their precious Barry Obama. But the American people are not going to buy this propaganda any more than they buy the other nonsense sold of late by the fake news media.

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    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...its-to-spying-from-inside-the-trump-campaign/

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    The major point of it all, had the Trump campaign been informed the intelligence agencies wanted to watch the Russian via Trump, then yeah, I’d say that isn’t spying on Trump, per see. That’s not what happened. When a person, group etc., is being watched by the intelligence community and not informed, it’s spying, simple as that.
    Clapper just can't keep his lies and euphemisms straight. He's living in a world where "gross negligence" by a Progressive Leftist is just "extreme carelessness."
    Not only Clapper, but this is also the arrogance of each of Obama's appointed sycophants will be their downfall. Brennan, Comey, Clinton, et al.,. believed that they were above reproach and could get away with anything. They blatantly broke the law and thought it would be covered up when Hillary won the rigged election. I hope Sessions will finally wake up or a new and more effective AG will be appointed. It’s getting ridiculous at this point. And why is Rosenstein calling the shots when he’s a part of the scheme and also a witness?
     
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    Lol...What's getting ridiculous are trump's paranoid rants and his turd polishers' hysterical reactions.
    The government was investigating evidence of Americans working as foreign agents and committing crimes.
    The fact that so many of those being investigated were working for trump is what led them there. It's also an indictment of trump.
    Blame your great orange hope for stuffing his kakistocracy with traitors and idiots.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~~~~~~
    So you believe that an administration spying on a presidential candidate and a president elect is fine? If the FBI was so sure that the Russians were interfering, I'm sure if they had notified Trump he would have gladly cooperated with the FBI.
    Meanwhile on two different occasions Obama stated that vote rigging and sanctioned Russia for interference in the 2016 election was impossible.

    Obama: Vote Rigging Is Impossible - If In Favor Of …
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/10/obama-vote-rigging-is-impossible-if-in-favor-of-hillary-clinton.html
    Obama: Vote Rigging Is Impossible ... Is rigging the U.S. election possible? Obama says it is not possible: ... Trump ratchets up 'rigged election' claims, which ... Obama said there was "no serious" person who would suggest it was possible to rig American elections, adding, "I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes."
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national...
    Jun 23, 2017 · (Updated) The administration orders new sanctions against Russian organizations and individuals in response to Russian interference in the election. The administration also orders 35 Russian suspected spies operating under diplomatic cover to leave the United States and closes Russian-owned facilities on Maryland’s Eastern Shore and on Long …
     
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    And came up with nothing. Called a fishing expedition through spying.
     
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    Yes.

    Using evidence they created to justify the spying and FISA warrants.
     
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    Right. How many indictments and guilty pleas are we up to now? Those are nothing?
     
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    From your source: "Although Clapper said he does not like the word “spying” (considering how the disclosure of this spying has blown up in the Obama administration’s face, who can blame him?), he still used the word twice — because there is no other word."

    Here are the two times he mentions spying:
    “I think the president has deliberately distorted the facts here,” ... “There was no spying on the campaign. The interest was in what the Russians were doing, to attempt to infiltrate, gain leverage, influence whatever with the campaign. What the FBI was attempting to do was protect our political system against meddling and incursions by another nation, an adversary nation —

    “No, they were not,” Clapper replied. “They were spying on — a term I don’t particularly like — but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence — which is what they do.”

    How is either one of these statements an admission that the Trump campaign was spied upon?
     
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    Were the Trump people being watched?

    Were they informed?

    It was spying pure and simple.
     
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    What Trump should do is put all the intelligence agencies of whomever the nominee is for the democrats in 2020 just to watch for Russians.

    See how they like it.
     
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    Except the FBI were watching the Russians FIRST and those Russians went to the Trump campaign.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    So which Russians were they watching exactly, obviously you know names since you state this as proven fact.
     
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    I’m just going by exactly what Clapper has said.
     
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    Where was Russia putting the advertising it was buying on Facebook and other social media,they were backing the fat ASSED ORANGE ORANGUTAN, and who was paying the Macedonian teenagers who were all spreading lies and total bullshit about Hillary??
     
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    Exactly.

    These pro-Trump RW Fever Swamp Parrots will fall for any RW BS that comes along.

    This whole "Spygate" narrative has about as much credence as the latest Bigfoot Sighting.

    Righties gonna Righty.:icon_clueless:
     
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    Yet, we know the Russians initiated protests against Trump. Just as they did Hillary.

    We also know the Russians hacked the Demos to get oppo research on Trump.

    The handicapped left just isn't able to figure out that the Russians have been looking to undermine Western Democracies. Hence their meddling in Mexico's Election, The French, and Italy.

    Moreover the Russians have been meddling in US elections going back to the Late 30s and even had spies in the Demo party.

    Alger Hiss working for the State Dept.....ring any bells yet?
     
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    You mean Obama's administration was spying on the Trump campaign to protect the win for Hillary. Problem is as always the democrats failed
     
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    Sloppy indictments, extracting pleas based on forcing people to put their houses up for sale to pay for legal fees, threatening going after their children with the force of government, charges that the FBI said were not there like Flynn, charges that were previously discarded like Manafort that have nothing to do with Trump campaign, etc.. Like judge Ellis said, you force people to either sing, or compose.

    This is what you are defending.
     
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    Of course it was.


    Hold On, The FBI Was Spying On The Trump Campaign *Before* The Counterintelligence Probe Officially Started?.....


    Who is the FBI spy that was trying to glean information on the Trump campaign? Well, reportedly, it’s longtime CIA operative Stefan Halper. And no, it wasn’t leaked. If this is true, and most likely it is, there’s enough public information on him, along with the news media leaving a trail of breadcrumbs that confirmed his identity. They were as subtle as a sledgehammer.

    Last week, it was reported that the FBI had spied on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. It was later revealed by Axios that Halper had tried to get a top-level job in the administration after the campaign. Yet, before we get into what The Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald and others have noted about the timeline of the FBI’s Russia probe, let’s look real quick at the linguistic martial arts the news media is playing here. All of this deep state/Trump was spied on stuff was written off by the news media as conspiratorial garbage. Well, it turns out they were wrong. They’re wrong about everything it seems, especially reports covering this White House. This is how The New York Times covered this development. They also said that this spy is someone well known within D.C. circles.

    It seems that his alleged information gathering operation started way before his rendezvous with Papadopoulos. Carter Page and Sam Clovis, two others affiliated with the Trump team, were also approached by Halper as well.

    Greenwald also noted that while the news media knew who the FBI spy was, they refused to reveal his name, though they left so many clues that they might as well have disclosed the source. He also adds that the FBI and members of Congress are being more or less absurd that revealing the source would be damaging to national security; we pretty much already know who it is. And his work was already been reported. The Intercept then details how the Daily Caller was able to discern whom the source was using entirely public information, which brings us to FBI timeline. When did this investigation begin because it seems there were other times that Halper reached out to Trump team members prior to the Papadopoulos meeting that supposedly led to the FBI opening up a counterintelligence investigation in July of 2016. By the way, this theory was published by the Times in December of 2017, and it was ripped apart.

    Via Intercept:


    So, there’s the new line of inquiry. The FBI spy was investigating something prior to the official start of the counterintelligence probe. Byron York’s column in The Washington Examiner noted that Trump March meeting with The Washington Post editorial board is where the FBI and DOJ probably got the first batch of names to peruse; Trump has announced that Papadopoulos and Carter Page would be lending a hand:

    And all of this brings us to a figure that has remained under the radar in all of this: President Barack Obama. What did he know and when did he know it because the intelligence apparatus of the U.S. was under his administration, along with the FBI/DOJ. It’s relevant to bring the former president and his team under the microscope again. Until then, what we know via Larry O’Connor is that a) the Trump campaign was spied on; and b) the motive was political pending new developments....snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...mpaign-before-the-counterintelligenc-n2483144
     
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    Don't forget Clapper also said Trump was wrong or lying about being spied upon.



    Turley: Trump's Concerns About Spying Have Been Largely Validated.....

    George Washington University Law professor and Democrat Jonathan Turley is "mystified" by the media's response to allegations the Obama Justice Department had at least one spy obtaining information on the Trump campaign for the FBI during the 2016 presidential election.

    "I'm mystified by the response from the media. I think it is undeniable that the president's early allegations have been validated to a large extent. I think you can acknowledge that without necessarily saying this was done for the wrong purpose," Turley said. "I also don't understand why there isn't more concern here. The investigation may find there was a valid reason to investigate. Clearly [Carter] Page was under investigation long before the campaign, but we've always been critical of other countries where governments put their opponents under investigation. There's a legitimate reason here for us to be concerned and I think the president has raised that."

    "The president was openly mocked for this allegation. People like Clapper said it simply wasn't true. I think that the media has to recognize this is a serious allegation," he continued. "All Americans regardless of their party should want to investigate this."....snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...t-spying-have-been-largely-validated-n2483326
     
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    FACT CHECK OF THE DAY

    Drumpf Incorrectly Quotes James Clapper to Falsely Claim F.B.I. Spied on Campaign

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/us/politics/fact-check-trump-clapper-campaign-spy.html

    Mr. Drumpf is referring to comments by James R. Clapper Jr., who was the director of national intelligence under former President Barack Obama, that were made on “The View” on Tuesday. But Mr. Clapper never said what Mr. Drumpf claimed he did. In fact, he said the opposite.

    Here’s the exchange:

    Joy Behar: “So I ask you, was the F.B.I. spying on Drumpf’s campaign?”

    Mr. Clapper: "No, they were not. They were spying on, a term I don’t particularly like, but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence, which is what they do.”

    Ms. Behar: “Well, why doesn’t he like that? He should be happy.”

    Mr. Clapper: "He should be. I mean, Russia — it’s one of the reasons I wrote my book, was the threat Russia poses because they are bent on undermining our system. And that’s what they did, and had a lot of success during the course of the election.”

    In other words, Mr. Clapper used the word “spy” to describe intelligence gathering on Russian efforts to influence the election. He explicitly denied that the F.B.I. “spied” on Mr. Drumpf’s campaign.

    There is no evidence that the intelligence agents planted an informant inside Mr. Drumpf’s campaign to spy on him for political purposes.
     
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    Ahahahaaha the leftness trying to save Clapper.

    Clapper <<<<< I made a mistake. [​IMG] Changing up his excuse from his first excuse.

    Message to Clapper.....yes you lied. Clap on Clap off.....Lying Machine Clapper. [​IMG]
     
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