Jane Fonda on If She Is ‘Proud of America Today’: ‘No!’

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Her motives were insane. She wined and dined with the people killing our families. I'm glad you weren't "thrilled" by her actions, but it seems like you have some support for them. Interesting.
     
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    William Ayers.

    LOL - That would be him. Another one of those wealthy "communism for thee but not for me" hypocrites like Noam Chomsky and most of the Democrats running for president. :lol:
     
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    Better yet, she won't be remembered at all outside of her family. She's an ACTOR for cripes sake. About as low as it gets on the 'worthwhile' totem.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yea. That's why I don't hate her. She meant nothing, really. Her gesture was just absolutely insane. Mental illness? Likely. Either way, she's just trying to get her name in the news.
     
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    They make me laugh 'n' barf. Wouldn't know a day's work in the collective if it jumped up and smacked them fair in the face.

    That they call themselves communist is always bizarre though .. I mean these are some of the most capitalist people you're likely to encounter. Incredible irony, really. We have to assume that either they are deeply stupid, or they think those listening are deeply stupid.
     
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    Not at all, sport.

    That's nice and the ones who made me sick were chicken **** commie traitors like Ayers and Chomsky who supported the communist genocidaires in Indochina.
     
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    I support what she was trying to accomplish but did not agree with how she went about it. I accept her apology and respect what she was attempting to do. When people in a place 10,000 miles away are killing our family members in their own homeland, I have to question the motives of those who sent our families into those jungles and kept them there for over 10 years. The blood is on their hands not the people who were defending their turf.
     
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    So you spent eight freaking years ignoring Barack Obama who always gave Putin everything he wanted with nothing in exchange.
     
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    You can also question the motives of the war, many of us do!

    Many sane Americans don't approve of motives of someone who partied with people killing our family members. You can forgive someone for their actions, or you can understand that some people are just incredibly stupid.

    I don't forgive her actions, but I also don't hate her. There are very few people I actually hate. I just think she's a ****ing idiot.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was a lot of genocide going on over there. Plenty of blame to go around.
     
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    That's for sure. Getting dirt and oil under your fingernails is for the benighted peasants, not intellectual elites like them. Tut tut.

    Like I said, they're hypocrites and what's even worse is that they're smart enough to know they're hypocrites. They're the worst kind of frauds on the planet and they give decent hard working commies a bad name. :boo:
     
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    I’m ok with that. I just don’t see it that way.
     
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    Fair enough. We'll end it at that.
     
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    There was a lot of killing going on over there but genocide was a communist specialty.
     
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    Go in to your next town hall meeting and start screaming about aliens or animal rights non stop, claiming freedom of expression, and see what happens. Then go into the middle of the street at noon and start singing We Shall Overcome non stop and see what happens. Go into a first grade classroom at 10 a.m. and start protesting global warming non stop and see what happens.

    And read this if you still insist you can say anything you want anytime, any place.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/408/104
     
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    Thank god we got out of there when we did and those people are living in relative peace outside of all the live bombs we left there. Hopefully we learned some important lessons.
     
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    :roflol:

    I lol’d.
     
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    Tut tut indeed. No peasanting for the fancy folk.

    In all honesty, I don't think they can be very smart. Consider, they're pulling off a very successful fraud, without challenge. That takes long term planning, determination, dedication, cunning, intelligence, and considerable ambition. I doubt that many of these loafers have that kind of mettle, nor a clear motive for doing so. Besides, they really do think communism looks just like a nice tidy middle-class life. There is no reality in which that has ever been true, or could ever be true. Even the far more palatable Western model (voluntary small-holder collectives within the capitalist democracy context) doesn't look anything like that. Ergo, they're halfwits.
     
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    Good, that means we're doing things right if the commies are mad.
     
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    In defense of Hell, the conversations you'd have there would be a lot more interesting than those in Heaven.
     
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    And it's not just the Vietnam war - the fight against Communism
    and the proxy war with Mao's China and the Soviet Union.
    It's America bombing Japanese cities and American forces
    killing innocent German civilians.
    I think the world would be a better place if America just allowed
    Fascists, Communists and Islamists to live in peace.
     
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    Speaking only for myself, in public meetings and places I do not scream.

    Yes, rational discussions are often hard to find, but screaming is something I do not do.
     
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    Some of her behavior was over the top and she apologize for that. However she helped activate the millions of Americans who are opposed to a war that was obscene
    what did we accomplish in Vietnam name?(other than 60,000 dead Americans )
     
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    How is that relevant to today’s realities?
     
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    Renee lives in the past. Not much is measured against prevailing conditions, much less forward.
     

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