January 6 Hearing Session 6: "They're not here to hurt ME"

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  1. Zorro

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    More Implosion of Hutchinson's J6 Claims as Adam Schiff Steps in It Big Time On CNN

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    Bug Eyed Psycho.
    "The January 6 Committee did themselves in with the “witness” that they put on during the hearing on Tuesday, Cassidy Hutchinson."

    "But you would have thought, at least, if they were putting her on they would have checked the story with the people who she supposedly heard the story from — the alleged agents involved. They did not, NBC says the Secret Service says Bobby Engel and the driver of the vehicle are willing to testify that what Hutchinson said happened didn’t happen. Now, more media are reporting they are hearing the same thing from their Secret Service sources."

    Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot, with an assault rifle!

    "ABC News shooting down the Jan. 6 Committee:"

    "ABC Forced to report that today's hearings were all BULL ****"

    "Secret Service source told me earlier: “FYI, I’m calling bullshit on the Secret Service story. You think none of us would have never heard of this as an internal rumor? No ****ing way.”

    "Both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."

    "Tony Ornato, whom Hutchinson claimed told this story, says he never said it and it never happened, according to CNN."

    "Tony Ornato is denying that he told Cassidy Hutchinson Trump grabbed the steering wheel in presidential vehicle on 1/6 or lunged at a fellow agent, a USSS official tells @joshscampbell. CNN confirms that Ornato & Enger are prepared to testify that neither incident occurred."

    "This does in any credibility that the Jan. 6 Committee had left, if any. How can you not do the simplest thing and check with the agents and the other people before you throw these stories out there before the world? The answer is they didn’t care–they just wanted to skewer Trump and the truth didn’t matter, yet again. Why does anyone believe these liars anymore after all the lying they have done, not only over this but over Russia collusion and so many other things."

    "The Jan. 6 Committee just collapsed, and no one is going to believe anything they have to say now."
     
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    trump will lie under oath. has done so before.
     
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    As you cetainly noticed, since you're following this very closely, the Committee members have usually been very careful about possible indictments; they say that's not their job, which is to determine the facts and draw lessons for the future; it's up to the DoJ to decide whether indictments should be in order.
     
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    Putting Trump under oath is not the point.
    Letting Trump's team question in cross-examination all the witnesses... is the point.
     
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    it will never come to trial so there is no point keeping this testimony secret.

    do you think trump and his close associates have pardons? or

    is there some justice dept memo saying they can't be prosecuted? or

    does tramp have a video tape of garland at an epstein party?

    is there any other excuse for trump to be free?
     
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    Like always... you completely miss the point.
    It's not about Trump testifying
    It is about letting Trump's team cross-examination all the witnesses...

    Let them ask Barr to explain how the most sophisticated investigation agency investigated election fraud,.... where, when, how and why..
    Let them ask the Hutchins how Trump was setting in the front set of the beast. .... being she was not there...
     
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    We can only hope that Maxine Waters supporters do not find her in a public place
     
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    Facts include both sides of the story.
     
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    "Oh, yeah!
    Well, what about...?"


    Desperate attempt at diversion noted.
     
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    With all due respect the secret service already rebutted it.
     
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    Do you have a link to the rebuttal?
     
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    Check fox bret Baier toward the end of the show.
     
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    was not the beast. it was a black suv. if i am om a jury that part is hear say. (and, if true, would actually show trump as, at least wanting to bravely lead his troops to the battle. in fact, it sounds almost like the way he'd tell it, with

    "the strong secret service agent, tears in his eyes, saying 'please, sir, we can't allow you be be that close to danger. aoc might have a fingernail file."
     
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    The long list of Republicans, including officeholders and Trump regime insiders, who testified under oath before the U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, even as Trump lickspittles refused to come clean under oath, are patriots.

    Republicans of integrity must be safeguarded against the fanatical weird worshipers who threaten Raffensperger, Bowers, innocent poll workers, and their families.

    Death threats got so serious that Raffensperger and his wife stopped having grandchildren visit
    Raffensperger, a Republican, spoke out on Friday about his family’s experience dealing with months of threats, such as one that read, “You and your family will be killed very slowly,” after his wife, Tricia, separately went public with the terrorizing messages.

    Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers describes personal threats made after 2020 election

    Rusty Bowers testified that he, his family and his neighbors had been inundated with threats in the weeks following the election.
    "At the same time, on some of these, we had a daughter who was gravely ill who was upset by what was happening outside."

    Trump-inspired death threats are terrorizing election workers

    Tricia Raffensperger, wife of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, had received another anonymous text:
    “We plan for the death of you and your family every day.”

    That followed an April 5 text warning. A family member, the texter told her, was
    “going to have a very unfortunate incident.”

    Those messages... illustrate the continuing barrage of threats and intimidation against election officials and their families
    months after Trump’s November election defeat. While reports of threats against Georgia officials emerged in the heated weeks after the voting,
    Reuters interviews with more than a dozen election workers and top officials – and a review of disturbing texts, voicemails and emails
    that they and their families received – reveal the previously hidden breadth and severity of the menacing tactics.

     

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    I also just heard it on HLN with Robin Meade just a few minutes ago.
     
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    A valid rebuttal to what? Your opinion.
     
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    Whatever.
     
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    After hearing yesterday's testimony, how does one even begin to process all of what was said? It was teased as being a potential bombshell. It was closer to carpet bombing.

    There were some things we knew about that Hutchinson provided more detail and color for. Like the timing of his tweet accusing Pence of not having the courage to help with the coup coming minutes after Trump was told the mob was chanting "hang Mike Pence." It was a mind boggling disregard for Pence's safety.

    There were some things we didn't know, like this.

    Trump knew there were weapons in the crowd, wanted to get rid of metal detectors before siccing crowd on Congress
    Trump not only knew about weapons in the crowd on Jan. 6, but actually seemed to embrace that fact, Hutchinson testified. She focused on Trump’s rage upon learning that the immediate crowd area around the stage at the White House Ellipse — the part that was surrounded by metal detectors — was not full because people in the crowd had weapons and could not go through the magnetometers with them.

    Backstage at the rally, Hutchinson said she overheard Trump say something to the effect of, “I don’t effing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the effing mags away. Let my people in, they can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in, take the effing mags away.”

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    The Craziest Moments Of Cassidy Hutchinson’s Account Of Jan. 6
    Her testimony laid out a shocking pattern of both knowledge by Trump and others that the Jan. 6 rallies would grow violent, and a willingness to let that happen and even encourage it.
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    I thought I had become immune to being shocked by the Orange Menace. That still shocked me. I was reminded of all the times he boasted about the size of his rally crowds. And of course who can forget Don forcing Sean Spicer to go to the WH podium and lie about the size of the inaugural crowd? Clearly, this was much worse. It would be enough to keep Faux having an apoplectic fit for years. All the other far right wing outlets would similarly be in meltdown mode. The story would infinitely reverberate around the right wing sound chamber. With Trump, it's just one of many outrages. Too many to count. Too many to elicit the appropriate amount of indignity or attention. He has once again flooded the zone with atrocity just as he did for his entire presidency.
     
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    Hearsay evidence is rarely admissible in a real court. In a kangaroo court the standards are obviously based on politics.
     
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    Her credibility was just shot to hell by the Secret Service.
     
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    The U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol is establishing the official record of the attempt to pervert democracy via dozens of Republican officeholders and Trump insiders testifying under oath. As a consequence of what has been exposed, most Americans agree that the Loser is culpable and should be charged.

    It is entirely reasonable for all the Trump intimates concerning whom Cassidy Hutchinson testified under oath to also testify under oath regarding their recollections of all the events and their statements and behaviors that she recounted.

    Let Meadows, Cipollone, Ornato, etc. also provide detailed, sworn accounts, rather than Ms Hutchinson being targeted for the usual vilification, petty vendettas, and threats.
     
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    As I have repeatedly explained, the investigation is entirely one sided. The democrats feel impowered to say anything they want including made up hear say as just demonstrated by the contrary statements of the secret service limousine driver.
     
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