Jayland Walker suffered at least 60 wounds in fatal police shooting, Akron police chief says,

The hell.... the OP mentions that there was a pursuit / chase. I consider that fleeing away.

The cops are punching above their weight shooting at black people. In fact, they are also stopping and harassing black people a heck of a lot more in general, while stats show that stopping white people leads to more infractions.

They did. They feared for their lives for hours in a row, and only shot ones at those white people.
Their reaction to fearing for their lives when 1 black person causes that is extremely different.
It just stupid to contest this.

So what. That mass murderer shot at a heck of a lot of people. Back to the dwarwingboard with your piss poor argument.

Defending cops shooting an unarmed black person 60 times, who do not shoot at a white mass murderer, and only shooting ones at 1000's of white people who are causing them cops fear for their lives for hours.... is just exposing the racism that goes on in the US, that you clearly support.

 

For his life? lol

He was running to get away.

Notice you didn't address your other, far more blatant, lie.

No, they're not, assuming you actually look at relevant data.

Yes, it was absurd for you to even attempt to compare the two.

Yes, he had. Do you think that's relevant to them catching him later? Did he shoot at police from his car and then jump out and run?....no?.....yea not the same.

You have zero argument here. You're trying to compare someone who shoots at cops, then runs to someone who gave up without incident (go on, tell me how what he did hours earlier means he should've been shot dead on the spot).

lol.....keep the lies coming. He had JUST shot at them. They had NO IDEA he didn't take the gun with him. WTF do you think they should've thought when after running he turned to face them?

Keep pushing your racism though, it's what we expect from most lefties here.

 

Those are low quality lies, why do you do that?

 

This is sick.

 

Indeed, for his life. I think we all know how Floyd came to his end. He's not exactly alone on this. Patrick Lyoya was in a similar situation. He just got executed through the back of his head. And the autopsy of Walker isn't finished. But it all looks like he was shot from behind. While you said it's a false claim, with nothing to back that one up.

Yes they are.... it's 3 times about their weight.
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroo...in-us-more-than-3-times-as-high-as-in-whites/

I am comparing the 2 where cops fear for their lives, while the reaction to that fear against white people is different than the reaction against black people.
It's systematic.

He fired shots none the less.
Actually, he fired a heck of a lot more.... AND killed people.
Back to the drawing board with your piss poor argument.

No lies. He was unarmed when they shot him 60 times.
While the cops also had no clue if that white killer had a gun on him or did we casually forget about that one.

 

Holy crap you haven't even read the article. That's why you didn't even know you were lying about where he was shot. Had I known you had no ****ing clue about what you were talking about I would never have engaged.

I said look at relevant data. Do whites and blacks resist at the same rate? Do they commit crimes at the same rate? etc. I knew you'd have no clue how to look at data.

"He fired shots none the less".....LOL....you have nothing here. The apprehension in each of these cases was vastly different and not comparable. That you're even attempting to compare their apprehension is laughable.

Yes, lies abound from you as well as a healthy dose of racism.

Come back when you're capable of looking at something objectively instead of predetermining your position and then being blatantly dishonest in order to justify said predetermined position.

 

Lyoya, similar to Walker, was fleeing / resisting arrest (that's usually a bad choice). Unlike Walker though, AFAIK Lyoya never discharged a firearm at the cops that were pursuing him (that's virtually always a really bad choice). That's the key difference. That's why the cop that shot Lyoya was charged and why I think it's unlikely any of the cops that shot at Walker will be.

 

Right. You mention resisting arrest as a "bad choice". That hints to a rather wide concept that a cop got somehow the right to go execute a black person when it's resisting. That's a racist Jim Crow mentality. There is unfortunately no other explanation for that "bad choice" part.

While you keep mentioning Lyoya fired at the cops. Which is probably not true at all. He fired a gun, yes. It's very doubtful it was at the cops. While you casually omit that the mass murderer also shot around... and killed. Lyoya did not. While Lyoya was massacred when unarmed. And the mass murderer was simply caught. It's all petty excuses to come up with that the massacring a black person is just excusable like that.

I can tell you one thing: it aint normal at all.

 

Fabricating things isn't normal but that's what you just did.

 

Serious question for you: do you believe Chris Rock is demonstrating a "racist Jim Crow mentality" in this video:



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You are confused. Walker fired at the cops that were pursuing him as he fled. Lyoya did not.

Even if you were right about this (and I don't think you are) it doesn't really matter which direction he fired the gun in, because it was the fact that he was firing a gun while on the run for the cops that made him a danger to the public, not the direction he was shooting in. If he was blasting it into a nearby park or a string of houses or passing cars rather than the cops, that makes him more of a threat to the public, not less of one. You understand that, right?

I don't even know who you're referring to here. Is it Micah Xavier Johnson?

 

I love how the left completely ignored the fact that black men, especially, are more prone to fight back against the police during an encounter than any other ethnic group.

 

And something like 7 years later, he pulled over 3 times in 2 months. He put his frustrations on twitter. A fellow black actor reacted that he experienced that too and got so fed up that he sold his Mercedes and started driving a prius with dark tinted windows... which fixed the problem... telling Rock to adapt to this situation.

This all falls into the pattern of cops harassing black people for driving around and being pulled over. Top of my head, a university proved it, when analyzing almost a 100 million traffic stops. The racial harassment for driving while black really is an uncalled for systemic racist thing that goes on.

That's what I got to say about it.

Nope. They saw a flash in the car, and that was it. While you are deliberately constantly leaving out he was unarmed when they were chasing him down on foot ... making it seem the cops shot back at Lyoya when he first shot at the cops. Such a thing did not happen.

Same can be said about that white mass murderer. But he gets to live and tell.

Robert Crimo

 

What you are confused about (among other things) is the NAMES of the people involved. The subject of this thread, the guy who shot his gun off as he was fleeing a police pursuit, who ran from the cops, and got shot repeatedly for his dangerous behavior, is not named Lyoya. His name was Jayland Walker. Lyoya was another dude in a different incident a while back. Now do you see your mistake?

 

You're right.

It still changes little that they only saw a flash of Walker in the car. The pursuit part on foot was where he was unarmed. It remains something you casually leave out and pretend the cops shot at a person right after he shot at them in some kind of exchange of gunfire. That didn't happen.

 

The truth is not always pretty.

 

It was much more than that. There's actually quite a lot of evidence that he fired that gun from that vehicle that night, during the police pursuit.

source: Jayland Walker: What we learned about his death, and what questions remain (news5cleveland.com)

We can all be reasonably confident that Walker fired his gun during the police pursuit, if we're objectively looking at what is known at this point. Later on, I expect we'll get confirmation that there was gunshot residue on Walker's hand, and lab confirmation that the casing matched the gun he left in the vehicle.

Now, you're right that there was a (short) intervening foot pursuit, and Walker had left the gun in the car and was thusly unarmed, but none of the officers knew that, and the law does not require them to be omniscient, only to act reasonably. At the time of the shooting, following a long police chase during which he had discharged a firearm and a short foot chase, and a sudden erratic behavior during which he appeared to present a threat, Walker looked and acted like a danger to the public and the police, and the police responded accordingly. They were justified in doing so.

 

yeah. Like I said. They saw a flash. I'm not saying he did not shoot the gun. There is still a world of differences between seeing a flash, maybe hearing a pop.... and assuming you are getting shot at. While this all still happened in the car. He still was unarmed when he ran away on foot. They found the gun in the car. Which is not odd. LOADS of people have guns. It's Murica, remember. Guns are everywhere. It would be odd if they didn't find a gun.

So even with hindsight, they can't be 100% sure this happened. And there is a world of difference between a shot that goes off, and him aiming his gun at the police and the police being aware of it.

Sure sure. These are dumb excuses.
They "feared" so much for their lives that they first used a taser. It didn't work. And that's when they just gunned him down in an insane manner.

And I add. They cops hunted down a mass murderer. You seriously can assume he is armed and freaking nuts. But that white guy was apprehended without a scratch. It's a systematic theme how white people get arrested while black people get gunned down.

The stats show this, and these examples will go add up in those stats as well.

 

Another individual performing bad acts and he performs actions that leave the police no choice but to shoot to kill.

And liberal media makes it about race.

Based on the facts that we have, all actions were warranted and fully justified. And it wasn't about race.

 

Although I think there are things the police could have done better, I think the shooting is justified. It’s hard to say what you would have done when it is your life on the line. I think this guy brought this on himself with his actions.

All this “white cops shoot black man” crap is doing nothing but widen a divide that should have never existed. I doubt very much that they were thinking that they were going to kill this guy because he was black.

This is media/politicians/elites trying to divide us, once again.

 

And they wonder why Police use force at possibly higher rates?

 

The way certain media networks are covering this is why they can’t be trusted EVER!!

 

That's a lie. Plenty of white people get "gunned down" by the cops too.

Here's an example from just two days ago: The Civil Rights Lawyer on Twitter: "Police shooting just filmed by a bystander near Beckley, WV. https://t.co/bhu5TIGTav" / Twitter

 

Headline: Police shot an unarmed black man.
Several sentences into the article, "the suspect shot at police".

The media did it on purpose as reading the headline alone can easily lead to outrage and done with the article.

 

LOL, that's all a fabrication. Do you get points for making things up?

 

If you mean shoot at them sure...