Jayland Walker suffered at least 60 wounds in fatal police shooting, Akron police chief says,

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    In many cases police have killed people for just HAVING a gun, they didn't shoot it at all.
     
  2. mudman

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    Are you trying to argue that police shouldn't be allowed to shoot a suspect unless the suspect fires first?

    That's a horrible argument if so.
     
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    Considering the policy Obama forced on our military regarding engagement, it shouldn’t shock you. Democrat don’t know **** about police and military tactics.

    I mean, how many times do we hear the cops should only shoot to wound. Just shoot the knife out of their hand, no biggie. Or shoot them in the foot if they’re running. /derp
     
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    Really surely you can document this then..?
     
  5. notme

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    Apparently you do not live in the US.

    https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroo...in-us-more-than-3-times-as-high-as-in-whites/
    Fatal police shootings of unarmed Black people in US more than 3 times as high as in Whites
     
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    I see you cherry picked your article.

    Those numbers are contradicted all over the internet from a myriad of sources. I can't find any other source that says there's that many shootings involving unarmed civilians.

    Plus, what are you even trying to prove here? What point are you trying to make?.....that the group who commits the most violent crime and resists arrest at the highest rate get shot the most?.....sounds normal to me. If they committed crime at an equal rate and resisted at an equal rate but were shot and killed at a higher rate, then you might have a point.
     
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  7. notme

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    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01609-3/fulltext
    Police are more likely to shoot Black civilians than White civilians given the same levels of criminal activity, even when the civilian is unarmed. In addition to a disproportionate burden of fatal violence at the hands of the police, systemic racism also makes non-Hispanic Black people more likely to be incarcerated than other racial groups (details on the association between incarceration and police violence can be found in the appendix. Racial bias in policing does not exist in a vacuum: it follows the pattern of anti-Black racism in the criminal justice system throughout the USA's history.


    The racism against black people really is all over. From driving while black, to who the cops arrest for drugs but who actually does drugs, to even that black people are systematically convicted more harsh then white people when the criminal history is the same. It is what it is. But I guess you never bothered to look into it.

    And your idea that resisting arrest justifies being shot, is disturbing. That's just you sweet talking police brutality against black people.
    Amusing.
     
  8. Buri

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    Another pointless fabrication.
     
  9. mudman

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    Mind pointing out where I said that?

    I'll save you the time, I didn't. I didn't say it, I didn't imply it, etc.

    But when you attack police, they don't just take the beating, nor should they.

    Your inability to respond is enough.
     
  10. notme

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    "resists arrest at the highest rate get shot the most"

    And I sourced twice that unarmed black people get shot far more.
    It goes on that it's not just that, but even in courts. So get over it that systemic racism is real.
     
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    No you didn't. That's another fabrication, you know people can read right?
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Who is not trying to defend them the defund anti-police left or the catch the criminals and put them in jail and keep them in jail conservatives? Do you also speak with such fervor when talking about the thousands of unborn children who are dead each year because of abortion and trying to protect the future?
     
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    This certainly raises concerns. Police need more time at the pistol range.
     
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    I talk often of the gross hypocrisy of those who do a song and dance about protecting unborn children and at the same time do a song and dance about having the right to kill them when they are older.
     
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    Right to kill someone when they are in an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm? You don't have that right in your country?

    A false comparison.
     
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    Indeed not.
    Your contradictory sense of the value of life is a serious hypocrisy.
    As for self protection of course we have that right. I already said so.
    BUT IT WOULD HARDLY EVER BE WITH A GUN. It would be very difficult to have one.
    Self protection does not mean killing someone.
    Self protection hete and elsewhere means exterior lights, sirens, vidéo recording, shutters , dogs and strong fencing.
    No need to kill anyone.
     
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    Lol, taking self protection advice from the French is like taking plumbing advice from mexico.
     
  18. ricmortis

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    That video recording may or may not help them identify the home invaders after they butcher the family and rape the women.

    While we are at it, who is going to pay for all this? Does everyone in the country have the funds to create their safe zone and panic rooms?
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    Your attempts to create on when there is not one?

    Yes self protection means the ability to protect yourself from imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm up to use of lethal force. Is it against the law to use lethal force in your country to protect yourself from such a threat?
     

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