They trespassed against him his entire life, accused him of everything, wanted him dead and shuffled him off to be tortured and crucified. That he was guilty of nothing and submitted to their will by laying down his life, does not exonerate them of their wickedness. It just makes it all the more poignant that he was killed in the home of a friend when he did nothing to deserve it. In fact, his whole purpose was to save the people who treated him like an enemy. It's very sad and heart breaking to think about.
Accusing the collective Jewish people of the time is irrational baseless anti-semitism. Not even a majority of the Jews of Jerusalem were responsible for his trial. If you believe the New testament, a crowd of Jews sentenced him to death. Only a rabbid bigot would suggest that means all of the Jews of the world at this time were therefore responsible for his death. We also know that the man who was spared, his name was Jesus Bar-Abbas, which means Jesus the son of the Father. This little detail makes me think the entire story is bullshit. Maybe there was a rabbi named Jesus who knows. But most of the story is bullshit
Oh of course. In fact, Christianity is a Jewish religion. The head and first Christian Church were all Jews. They suffered as well as Jesus Christ. But it was at the hands of other Jews, not Italians or Ethiopians. What I find strange is that most Jews reject their own Christian religion, while most Gentiles believe it, or at least they say they do.
Jesus can’t be defeated? Neither can anti theism. Except by eliminating all those that don’t‘believe’.
Spoiler Alert...Jesus is not real. Neither is the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy or Santa. Believe in whatever imaginary Sky Daddy helps you make it through life. Some of us don't need imaginary friends to live morally, ethically and honestly.
"Sky Daddy" and "Imaginary friend"? No, all you need is the invisible, imaginary, intangible, unprovable source for your morals and ethics. What matters is to whom one gives honor.
Why does anybody have tp look to anything outside themselves to live morally, ethically, lovingly, honestly and honorably?
Within us is an intangible, unprovable light of conscience which aids us in discerning good from evil, and right from wrong. It is not of the natural world. As such it is as unprovable as God. Yet we build entire civilizations from it. So if life in God is fantasy, then our entire secular way of life is built on fantasy. To be separated from God makes him no more a fantasy than closing a curtain makes a fantasy of that within or without ones abode. That said, no one is forced to take Jesus Christs gospel to heart.
I thought it was prophesied the first go of the Messiah… why was a second go needed? How many tries do you get? I
He came in mercy, and will return in judgment. He overcame all things for mankind's salvation and to establish a path for mankind to either accept or reject. When he returns, it will be to judge the world, to save his own, destroy the remainder, and establish his kingdom on the earth for a thousand years. That's my understanding. When that is to happen, nobody knows. I suppose it goes to his umpteenth effort to ply mens souls....when all have made their final choice and no more can be done to save. But that's just my unqualified guess.
How do you defeat that which does not exist, except only in people's minds? As V said, ideas are bulletproof.
If that did not happen, then there'd be no Jesus story to talk about dying for the sins of believers. Even though, I thought it was for the sins of all people. But religions only say those in their religion will be saved. At least the strict fundamental ones.
We built our secular society from the light of conscience. But many refuse to honor it. We call them criminals. If we can presume to dictate to our fellowman, then surely God can establish his kingdom on his own earth and put away the rebellious from his midst. It is conceivably reasonable according to our own justifications and conduct in our own affairs.
You're the one with imaginary friends. I suppose you can design them however your heart desires. You made all that up.
Jesus Christs atonement applies to everyone. We all, to one degree or another, sin against God by violating our consciences and our fellowman.
There are other significant divisions in Christianity. One doesn't need to go to Jews in order to find such divisions that are mutually exclusive on issues such as who gets to go to heaven, etc.
