Jesus was the first Republican:

Capitalism is when govt and business are separate, socialism is when they are combined as they obviously were in Nazi Germany. 1+1=2

 

Sorry, Hitler didn't nationalize any German businesses or industry.

 

Hitler hunted down socialists and killed them.

 

1) Our liberals spied for Stalin because he was a communist and just elected AOC becuase she is a communist.
2) Fascism, like socialism, is when govt and business are combined. Capitalism is when the are separate. Now do you understand?

 

yes because they were competing socialists, Hitler was a National Socialist. 1+1=2

 

he had 100% control over industry so it would 100% serve the state's desire to conquer the entie world. This is a perfect example of socialism, and the exact opposite of capitalism.

 

You're wrong.. and evidently haven't bothered to read much about Hitler.

 

HItler took total socialist control of the economy and organized it totally to prepare for world war. Did you think they decided to produce all those planes and tanks because they thought Mr.Jones, the local school teacher, wanted one??

 

Republicans love big government as well which is why they demand a huge welfare receiving military industrial complex

 

all those parties you mentioned were financed by Wall Street Republicans
FACT

 

I know, but early on there was hope that Hitler would pull Germany out of the severe economic depression.

 

Hitler provided slave labor and worked people to death.. It was a Two-fer.

 

that he did by eliminating unions just like Republicans did in the USA
two of a kind fer sure

 

No honey.. They worked Jews to death.

 

Learn about the use of slave labor by German companies and manufacturers during World War II. ... Albert Speer, Hitler's favorite architect, was among the 22 Nazi leaders tried at ... Jews who could not work were either dead or about to die.



Benjamin Ferencz, who was an American prosecutor at Nuremberg, noted:

Well over half a million inmates were leased out by the SS to hundreds of German firms by the end of 1944. The workers included Germans . . . , Communists, Socialists, other political opponents of the Nazi regime, priests, Seventh Day Adventists, as well as homosexuals, “asocials,” and common criminals. . . . As a class, there can be no doubt that the Jews suffered most of all, but in focusing on their claims, I have not wished to minimize the suffering of all the others. . . . Jews were regarded as contagious vermin by their Nazi oppressors, and were treated accordingly. They were given the most strenuous and most dangerous work. Jews who could not
work were either dead or about to die.



Ferencz pointed out that although some industrialists were tried and convicted, most were free within a few years and richer than ever. Although some survivors sued German companies, settlements were very small.

https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-and-human-behavior/chapter-10/business-slave-labor

 

by now you should realize that I know my history:

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/today-in-labor-history-nazis-destroy-unions/

 

Yes, he did ... I wrote that hourd ago .. and his ss leased prisoners out to German companies who worked them to death.

 

One more time.

 

Unions exerted much political influence in Germany (and still do all over Europe). The fact that he destroyed them enabled him to go about destroying Germany and Europe.

 

Not all Socialists are in favor of Nationalizing the business interests of their country and turning them into some Soviet style utopia.

One of the biggest differences in Fascism ("National Socialism") is that it tried to incorporate Socialism in a way that most Communists would outright reject. In essence they only try to achieve it for their own nation, and work with the existing infrastructure of businesses instead of trying to tear it all apart and rebuild it where the State owns everything.

China, Italy, Germany, the concept is not even new, today the lovers of the system have taken to calling it "Democratic Socialism". Both the long dominant party in Taiwan (Formosa-Taipei, take your pick) and the opposition party are Socialist, and have never attempted to take over businesses.

What you are missing is that National Socialism is interested in using Socialism to maintain their country. International Socialism (Communism) strives to be an expansionist cult which believes that they are the wave of the future, and that eventually all nations on the planet will be members of the Ultimate Soviet. Where there is no property, no money, everything belongs to the people.

But your explanation fails, because Stalin was a true believer of the Soviet Empire. He fought to help create it, fought to expand it, then fought to keep it and expand it again during the Great Patriotic War. Yes he was a thug, but he was also a true believer in Communism.

 

Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews.

In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.

In the 1930s and even beyond, nazism, in sharp contrast to socialism, was strongly supported by leading capitalists and right wingers in the US. Henry Ford, the leading industrialist and auto maker, was a great admirer of the nazis.

When Henry Ford announced that he might run for president in 1923, the little-known Hitler told the Chicago Tribune that he would like to send shock troops to Chicago to assist in the campaign. Later in 1938, the year of Kristallnacht, Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest civilian award given by the nazis.

Ford accepted it with pride, and Ford's company collaborated with the nazis as late as August 1942. General Motors, Standard Oil, ITT, and Chase National Bank (later Chase Manhattan Bank) among others also had major financial investments and collaborations with Nazi Germany.

J. Edgar Hoover, the first director of the FBI (and virulently anti-communist) was a great admirer of the nazis and was a pen pal of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsfuhrer of the Nazi SS, head of the Gestapo, and second most powerful leader of the Nazi party). Hoover sent Himmler a personal invitation to attend the 1937 World Police Conference in Montreal, and in 1938 welcomed one of Himmler's top aids to the U.S.

In June 1939, when the Nazi SS was conducting savage attacks against Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals throughout Germany, Hoover personally autographed a photo of himself and sent it in response to a request, to KRIPO, the Nazi criminal police agency. He continued communication with Nazi police until December 4, 1941 (three days before Pearl Harbor).*

Nazism is a right wing ideology. It is violently racist, anti-socialist, and it targets the political left for extermination.

This is underscored by Albert Einstein's embrace of socialism throughout his life -- and in particular in his 1949 essay, Why Socialism? -- along with the fact that Einstein's name was included on a nazi death list with a bounty of $50,000 offered for his assassination.

If nazism really is socialism, why would Einstein have identified himself as a socialist a scant four years after WWII?

The current right wing conflation of nazism and the left is sleazy. A more informed population would view this as completely idiotic, but unfortunately this propaganda is becoming increasingly effective.

http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html​

 

No, they outlawed Communism.

What is often lost is that to most people "Socialist" and "Communist" are pretty much the same thing, both in the 1930's and today. They reject any form of Socialism that does not seek to embrace Socialism on a global level, even if done country by country as opposed to in a kumbaya singing global scale.

And like any party that seeks to achieve ultimate power and has the capability to do so, they eliminated any competing political parties.

What set Der Paper Hangar apart from the Lamp Ornament and General Kai-shek is that he was not just a Socialist. He was also a fanatical racist who believed that other races or religions (Slavs, Jews, Romani, etc) were inhuman and should be eliminated (killed). That is an aberration and not the norm. In this, he is closer to Pol Pot or Chairman Mao in the worst of his insanity.

And while I abhor Communists in general, I do not believe that Kampuchea or Maoist PRC is typical of Communism.

Just as Der Paper Hangar is not typical of a Socialist government, neither is Pol Pot nor the 1.5 million killed in the Cultural Revolution typical of a Communist Government (after the initial purge upon gaining power). The majority of purges in Communist governments after they achieve power tends to be more of an internal power struggle than a kind of mass mania that grips the nation over and over again. The Kim Dynasty still uses purges to maintain personal power, but it is not the national mania that we saw in China like the Zhen Fan, Three-anti Campaign, Five-anti Campaign, the Anti-rightist Campaign, the Hundred Flowers Campaign, the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Anti-spiritual Campaign, the Anti-corruption Campaign, etc, etc, etc.

Italy was National Socialist ("Fascist") under "Il ******", the Lamp Ornament. As was the Republic of China under the Kuomintang as founded by Dr. Sun Yat-sen. I always found it interesting that the Chinese Civil War was much like the US one, where both sides adored their "Founding Father" as the founder of their country (General Washington in the US, Dr. Sun in China) and both were once the same party.

And in each of these examples, any political parties were highly discouraged (if not outright abolished). Taiwan is somewhat unusual in that it has survived long enough to actually have a functioning opposition party (which has been in power for 10 of the 71 years that government has been in power).

Edit: I find it somewhat humorous reading my response that the site blocked out my normal snarky nickname for the leader of Italy during WWII, which I replace "Duce" with the name of a feminine hygiene product that sounds very similar.

Well, maybe I should just from now on call him "Il Massengill".

 

I get it about Mussolini, but I don't agree that Communism and Socialism are the same.

 

but you said he was a capitalist, then I pointed out your mistake, then you changed the subject. Sad

 

Hitler didn't nationalize any German industry.