Jewish groups' reckless accusations of 'anti-Semitism' sets us down a dangerous path

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  1. SamSkwamch

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    Sticks and stone may break my bones, but names will never hurt me -- and they may come back to haunt the name-callers.

    In finding anti-Semites behind every challenge to Canadian complicity with Israeli colonialism, mainstream Jewish organizations are emptying the term "anti-Semitism" of its historical weight.
    http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/yve...ss-accusations-anti-semitism-sets-us-down-dan

    Overall, the above seems like a fair and reasonable article. But what is this ubiquitous anti-Semitism? Over and over it seems like we are told it is simply irrational hatred for Jews. This seems to mean that people are genetically prewired for Jew hatred. Is that reasonable?

    The Jerusalem Post recently published a study from France which concluded that 17 percent of the French public responded that the Jews are significantly responsible for anti-Semitism. Among French Muslims this percentage was much higher at 31%.
    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Beyond-definition-The-huge-periphery-of-anti-Semitism-464188

    The Post left out that actually 6 in 10 French people think Jews are responsible for anti-Semitism.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-for-anti-semitism-survey-finds-a6848911.html

    What say you? The world was born to be anti-Semtic or something else?
     
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    this is like blaming a woman for being raped, cause her legs or shoulders were showing.

    this thread is nothing but one more example of hatred of Jews.
     
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    Well blood Libel and jealousy do not disappear quickly, and this recent Islamic invasion of Europe is divine retribution for the sins committed against Gods chosen People.
     
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    from accusing the Jews of running the media, to accusing Judaism of supporting pedophilia, to accusing the Jews of lying about the Holocaust, this is just one more example of an anti-Jew agenda.
     
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    I disagree, but assuming you are correct, is this "hatred of Jews" you speak of an irrational hatred we are genetically predisposed to, or is it something else?
     
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    "we are predisposed to?"
     
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    "We," Ron, as in humanity. This thread is not about me. Is humanity predisposed to Jew hatred or is it something else?

    For once, try and stay on topic.
     
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    You certainly like to be upfront about yourself, Sam. Are you Canadian? If you are, you may be happy to know that Jews only account for 1% of the population. If you ren't maybe you should think about moving there.
     
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    only irrational and illogical bigots hate all Jews.

    its that simple.

    there is no justification, to hate all Jews or Judaism.
     
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    So, you are saying that it is ingrained in people genetically or is there more?
     
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    Anti Semite filth is predisposed to hating Jews because they are jealous losers.
     
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    So, the obviously racist, talmudic hatred for non-Jews, is that because they are jealous losers?

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    please stop posting such anti-Semitic propaganda. most Jews do not view Gentiles this way.

    just a very small number of extremists.

    if these guys represent all Jews, then Nazis and KKK represent all Christians.

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    folks cherry-pick obscure passages from the Talmud, in order to justify their irrational, illogical, and obsessive hatred of Jews.

    not my fault.

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    yes, some people are genetically predispositioned towards idiocy.
     
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    FALSE AGAIN!
    Actually, they have immense political power. Not only was he a talmudic scholar, and the sephardi chief rabbi of Israel, but he was also the founder of the shas party. Even wiki admits:
    ...The majority of Shas voters are themselves not ultra-orthodox....
    Shas has at times been able to exert disproportionate influence by gaining control of the balance of power in the Knesset within the context of the traditionally narrow margin between Israel's large parties.


    Some might, but I havn't and that was your accusation. I have only posted from the talmud itself. I have posted the entire talmud and the complete sections referenced making it impossible to be taken out of context.

    LOL <biting tongue>
     
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    sorry, but anti-Semitic comments, that dishonestly misinterprate the Talmud, is all they are.

    these comments do nothing but attack Jews and seek to justify hatred against Jews.
     
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    NOPE!

    Let's look at Sanhedrin 54b:

    Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed as pederasty with a child above that. Samuel said: Pederasty with a child below three years is not treated as with a child above that.24 What is the basis of their dispute? — Rab maintains that only he who is able to engage in sexual intercourse, may, as the passive subject of pederasty throw guilt [upon the active offender]

    They even put in specific footnotes so it could NOT BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT:

    Rab makes nine years the minimum; but if one committed sodomy with a child of lesser age, no guilt is incurred. Samuel makes three the minimum.
    At nine years a male attains sexual matureness.
    Lev. XVIII, 22. Thus the point of comparison is the sexual matureness of woman, which is reached at the age of three.

    http://www.come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_54.html#54b

    And the above is just one section of many making this point clear.
     
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    so what are you saying? prejudice and hatred against Jews is justified?
     
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    Something else. Many people require somebody else to blame for their own sorry arsed existence. Many people require membership in a group and frankly the entrance bar for jew haters is awfully damn low. Many people require somebody to hate in order to feel better about themselves. Many people covet thy neighbors stuff. Many people are ignorant and stupid.

    Jew hating isn't genetic, its merely an ideology. One that starts with a conclusion and works backwards to connect the dots in support of that conclusion. Its a regression from a definitive conclusion not a progression to reach that conclusion after the process.

    You are a classic example of that regression.
     
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    anti-Semitism is symptomatic of low self-esteem, self-hatred, fear, arrogance, ignorance, and jealousy
     
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    don't forget small hands.
     
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    It is learned. Just like I don't like antisemites...
     
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    The underbelly of humanity is antisemitic, Sam.
     
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    they are evil, evil people.
     
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    He does not speak for all Jews. Shall we quote some of those imams, Sam? Do they speak for all Muslims? Did Hitler speak for all Germans? Did Stalin speak for all Russians? Etc.
     
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    The French have long had a problem reconciling; liberte, fraternite, etc. with their Jews.
    Ref: The Dreyfsus Affair and besides one man, caused riots in the streets. And not by da Jews.
    Ref: French cooperation, at the personal level too, with the Nazi's final solution compared to Holland or Denmark.

    The French, as a nation, are among the worst of the West at reconciling "Jews" among themselves.
    Tell me it ain't so.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair
    [video=youtube;YcKnFK3HBvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcKnFK3HBvs[/video]

    http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/france/TheFinalSolutioninFrance.htm
    The fact was that, in reality, France had always been an extremely anti-Semitic nation. The Dreyfus affair in the 19th century is a very good example of how in the past anti Semitism and manifested itself in French society. In fact, it could be argued that French anti-Semitism was more ingrained than it ever was in Germany.

    Further incriminating for the Vichy regime, they “acquiesced in Article 19 of the armistice, which empowered Germany to demand the extradition of German citizens who had sought refuge in France. Under this provision, such prominent figures as Herschel Grynspan… were delivered back into German hands…” (Paxton, Vichy France : Old Guard New Order, 1940-1944, 371). Thus we see that because of this act any Jews or refugees who had come to France to flee the Nazi machine could now easily be deported back into its fold. Thus already the French were putting little to no effort into stopping the round up of the Jews.




    And That's The Way It Is / Was
    Viva La France
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    Whose Hero Was a Tyrant!
    Napoleon was not George Washington!

    Napoleon even said so.


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