Jewish journalist says her "jewish face" makes her feel ugly

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  1. ForumPoster

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    In The Jewish Chronicle, which is described as "the world's oldest and most influential jewish newspaper", the well-known jewish journalist Katie Grant writes about how her jewish face makes her feel ugly:
    https://www.thejc.com/culture/featu...urgery-to-make-my-jewish-nose-smaller-1.34787

    This is what Katie Grant looks like:

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    I have the following questions for my fellow PF members:

    1. What do you think about Ms. Grant's decision not to go through with the surgery?

    2. Was it "antisemitic" of the plastic surgeon to associate Ms. Grant's physical defects with her jewishness?

    3. In her article, Ms. Grant writes that jews' appearance is traditionally considered ugly in the West. Why do you think that is?

    As always, all opinions are welcome.
     
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    1) It's the only psychologically healthy decision to make. elective plastic surgery (not for injury or disease) is for dysfunctional losers.

    2) No. Not racist. Long and aquiline noses are sometimes referred to as "Roman". It's just shorthand for 'big honker'.

    3) I know MANY non-Jewish women who find Jewish men very attractive, as in drool-worthy. As regards the attractiveness of the women, I'll leave that question for the males. Though I'm not personally aware they're regarded as any more or less attractive than other white girls.

    Incidentally, Ms Grant has spectacular skin. Absolutely pristine. Good for her for keeping it out of the sun.
     
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    She does have great skin, but that nose is a non starter. She probably should have shaved some of that off. I'm not a fan of the idea of plastic surgery myself, but I do realize that women tend to lean on their looks more than a guy would and it might be worthwhile to get rid of the "Kilroy was here" look.
     
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    I've always disliked plastic surgery, but I think it might be necessary in some extreme cases, and quite frankly, this is probably one of them.
    Now this is a very good reply. We've all heard the term "Roman nose", which is considered acceptable, but if you say "jewish nose", you're accused of "antisemitism".
    Really? Most of the jewish women that I've seen look like this:

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    Yes, I agree with you, Mike.
     
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    Bet a head cold is a killer....
     
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    Another thread of hate already?

    Hey forum poster let's see what you look like?

    In the meantime, here are some photos of Gal Gadot...ugly Jew.

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    This isn't a "hate thread", I simply quoted an article from a jewish newspaper that I wanted to discuss with the members of this forum.
    Of course, my appearance is irrelevant to the thread's topic.
    I was 100 percent certain that someone would post pictures of Gal Gadot in order to "prove" that jewish women are attractive. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, but I'm not sure that airbrushed pictures of some Israeli model who has lots of white blood flowing in her veins - and who's probably had plastic surgery - is representative of jewish women.
     
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    Yeah, I believe you that this isn't a hate thread...you "prove" it in every one of your threads...

    I think your appearance is relevant....glass houses....

    what does this topic have to do with politics, btw?
     
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    You picked some ancient crones, there :D

    Meantime, I'm not entirely sure they were all female :p
     
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    Btw, Gal is not the only one, they are all over the place...she's just big right now... a Wonder Woman who would kick a butt ugly anti-Semite's ass....

    I could post some pics of butt ugly women who are of the master race variety, but I don't want to get down in the gutter with y'all.
     
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    This thread is about an article from a well-known jewish newspaper in which a jewish journalist talks about the "antisemitism" that she feels exists in our society. That's clearly a political matter.
     
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    Yes, and they all seem to be airbrushed models with lots of white admixture and bleached hair. How peculiar...
    Yeah, isn't Hollywood great? Was this movie made by Harvey Swinestein? You know, the "alleged" jewish rapist?
    Dude, I'm not the one who's in the gutter. I'm not the one who follows other posters around and hurls vicious insults at them all the time.
     
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    Okay, you win, Jewish women are all ugly.

    Yes, that movie was made by Harvey Swinestein the jewish rapist...he's a rapist because he's a jew, and jews are rapists.

    Seems like the gutter to me...I'll try to ignore...it just blows my mind that this sort of thinking goes on...it really does...
     
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    1. I think she was wise to skip it unless its a physical problem

    2. I think it depends on the spirit of the comment of her Jewishness was made determines if it was anti semitic or not.

    3. I don't think that a moderately large nose is unattractive. The quality of being attractive depends on a lot more than the size of ones' nose.
     
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    agree 100%

    edited to add that the aforementioned 'Roman nose' is considered handsome/beautiful. further, many many Asian people are undergoing plastic surgery to construct bigger and sharper noses. I like a largish honker, personally. Probs because I don't have one. It's 'exotic' to me.
     
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    I find it really strange, this topic...

    in general, I get it....it can be applied to many races and creeds...black people, too, get nose jobs, straighten their hair...the insidious pressure to "fit in" to certain standards of beauty...(and not just "fit in" beauty-wise...but sometimes to fit in for safety reasons..you know...stay alive)....

    but what really blows my mind is that male white "supremacists" sit around and discuss this...
     
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    I'm not convinced. I'll have to see more examples to make a determinations. Moar.
     
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    What have this go to do with politics? ZERO.

    This OP belongs in the comedy section.
     
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    If you are being extremely generous.
     
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    Not in your OP it's not. Your questions are irrelevant to this article.
     
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    Yes...

    unfortunately, the place these threads come from is the true ugliness, by far...

    there is a sort of relevance though, from Trump on down...

    I looked this topic up because it just seems so weird to me, and found that it is not uncommon...there are truly pathetic white supremacists discussing this sort of thing...

    in a way, Forum Poster is perhaps doing a service, as are the many dimwitted white supremacists that are out there...

    there is a huge and hateful problem that has been festering right under all of our noses.
     
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    The article in my OP wasn't written by "white supremacists". It was written by a jewish journalist, Katie Grant, and published in a well-known jewish newspaper, The Jewish Chronicle. Ms. Grant has also written about this topic in The Guardian, which is one of Great Britain's major newspapers. Therefore, I don't think it's strange or inappropriate to start a thread about it on PF.
    All my questions are about things that Ms. Grant wrote about in her article:
    This thread is about an article from a well-known jewish newspaper in which a jewish journalist talks about the antisemitism she feels she encounters in society because of her jewish appearance, which she feels is ugly. That's a political matter.

    Also, since Ms. Grant's article is largely about the jewish phenotype and why it has traditionally been considered ugly in the West, and whether or not it really is ugly, I think it's appropriate to post pictures of typical jews so that our readers can see what the jewish phenotype looks like. Here's the communist Gad Lerner who is a journalist and TV host in Italy:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gad_Lerner

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    Not all comments refer to you.

    I was saying I googled around and found that there are white supremacists discussing this topic, and in a horribly disparaging way. Nothing remotely positive. It boggles my mind that these people would spend their time with this. I think it shows clearly where they are coming from.

    If a black woman, for example, wrote an article sympathizing with other black women about a similar issue, straightening their hair, for example...and then white male supremacists use that article to insult and disparage these women, than clearly these supremacists are simply insecure horrible people with too much time on their hands and filled with hate. It boggles my mind.
     
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    Which one? I know Jews with fair skin, blue eyes, freckles, and straight ginger hair. I also know Jews with brown skin, black frizzy hair, and dark brown eyes.
     
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    Those are probably ones that have been mixed with other races, maybe the master race, so they're not quite so hideous.
     
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