Jews Don’t Have a Right to Palestine

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holy ****, name one country that wasn’t formed either from military action, or from the decree of another country backing up its will with potential military action.
     
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    Nope. The 'blood' of independence, and self defense differs from the 'blood' of conquest. When Israel originally went to war, it knew the difference as did the UN. Now it has conflated the two, while the UN has not bought into their land grab.
     
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    Do you think Israel gives a rodents rectum what the UN thinks.
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    How many Canadians died in the Canadian war of independence? How many Brits lost their lives?
     
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    That would be the war of 1812 and a whole bunch of British bit the dust.
     
  6. btthegreat

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    No that would not be. the war of 1812 did not result in the independence of Canada at all. It involved the invasion of the United States from Canada to the north and the blockade of our ports by British soldiers and navy. Now this link describes the process in 1860's . https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/canadian-independence-day
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    It's even on Google
    The War of 1812 is Canada's War of Independence. With the British Empire entrenched in a European war, a disparate group of Indigenous, French Canadian, Scottish, African Canadian and even ex-pat American fighters join together to fight for their new homeland.
     
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    They will need to change their childhood education curriculum then. its pointless to teach elementary kids "how to stab a Jew" if there are no more jews left in the region
     
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    Link please. I provided one. here's more
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    War of 1812[edit]
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    Loyalist Laura Secord warning the British (Lieutenant – James FitzGibbon) and First Nations of an impending American attack at Beaver Dams June 1813. – by Lorne Kidd Smith, c. 1920
    Main articles: War of 1812 and Origins of the War of 1812
    The War of 1812 was fought between the United States and the British, with the British North American colonies being heavily involved.[112] Greatly outgunned by the British Royal Navy, the American war plans focused on an invasion of Canada (especially what is today eastern and western Ontario). The American frontier states voted for war to suppress the First Nations raids that frustrated settlement of the frontier.[112] The war on the border with the United States was characterized by a series of multiple failed invasions and fiascos on both sides. American forces took control of Lake Erie in 1813, driving the British out of western Ontario, killing the Native American leader Tecumseh, and breaking the military power of his confederacy.[113] The war was overseen by British army officers like Isaac Brock and Charles de Salaberry with the assistance of First Nations and loyalist informants, most notably Laura Secord.[114]



    The War ended with no boundary changes thanks to the Treaty of Ghent of 1814, and the Rush–Bagot Treaty of 1817.[112] A demographic result was the shifting of the destination of American migration from Upper Canada to Ohio, Indiana and Michigan, without fear of Indian attacks.[112] After the war, supporters of Britain tried to repress the republicanism that was common among American immigrants to Canada.[112] The troubling memory of the war and the American invasions etched itself into the consciousness of Canadians as a distrust of the intentions of the United States towards the British presence in North America.[115]p"

    Now compare that to the following.
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    he Seventy-Two Resolutions from the 1864 Quebec Conference and Charlottetown Conference laid out the framework for uniting British colonies in North America into a federation.[127] They had been adopted by the majority of the provinces of Canada and became the basis for the London Conference of 1866, which led to the formation of the Dominion of Canada on July 1, 1867.[127] The term dominion was chosen to indicate Canada's status as a self-governing colony of the British Empire, the first time it was used about a country.[128] With the coming into force of the British North America Act (enacted by the British Parliament), the Province of Canada, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia became a federated kingdom in its own right.[129][130][131] (According to J. McCullough, use of the phrase "Dominion of Canada ... was gradually phased out" during the "late 1940's, 50's, and early 60's" with the growth of "post-colonial Canadian nationalism".)[132]

    Federation emerged from multiple impulses: the British wanted Canada to defend itself; the Maritimes needed railroad connections, which were promised in 1867; British-Canadian nationalism sought to unite the lands into one country, dominated by the English language and British culture; many French-Canadians saw an opportunity to exert political control within a new largely French-speaking Quebec[115]pp. 323–324 and fears of possible U.S. expansion northward.[128] On a political level, there was a desire for the expansion of responsible government and elimination of the legislative deadlock between Upper and Lower Canada, and their replacement with provincial legislatures in a federation.[128] This was especially pushed by the liberal Reform movement of Upper Canada and the French-Canadian Parti rouge in Lower Canada who favored a decentralized union in comparison to the Upper Canadian Conservative party and to some degree the French-Canadian Parti bleu, which favored a centralized union
     
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    Canada's War of Independence
     
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    Yes - they do take out punishment against the families of people who commit crimes. That's something we stand AGAINST.

    Beyond that, they bulldoze homes and steal the land of Palestinians when they simply want the land.

    What would YOUR reaction be if someone came and bulldozed YOUR home and drove you off your property?
     
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    Well, that's the law in their country.

    If you don't like it, move
     
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    We strongly support Israel, including in it's treatment of Palestine - the ethnic cleansing, the rule by mercenaries paid to carry out Israeli military law against civilians in Israeli courts (if it gets to the courts), the theft of water rights, etc., etc.

    The result is that this becomes our message to the region and beyond.

    We talk and talk and talk about how good we are, but the world watches what we do.
     
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    Yeah right.

    The Jews are a far better contributor to the human race than the Muslims.
     
  16. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    It is quite obvious that the end game for Israel is to kill off or drive out, all of the Palestinians. If it wasn't for public opinion, from around the world, they would have killed them all by now.
     
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    They sure aren't doing a very good job of it.
    In fact a Pallie anti-sematic leader is being treated in a Jewish hospital right now.

    They should have done it a long time ago.
     
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    At the end of WWII, instead of Palestine, there was an opportunity for the Baja California to be turned into New Israel, as a homeland for Jews. At the time, there were like 20 Native Americans living there. The climate is similar to Israel. But the Zionists insisted that it had to be in the Middle East.
     
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    The jews have a history in Israel.
    Why not there.

    The Pallies supplied troups to Hitler. BTW, they lost.
     
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    The European Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews came centuries later. There were Jews from Spain to India during the Roman era. The
    Jews who remained in the Middle East are the same as Arabs, ethnically. However, the state of Israel, is mostly the state of Ashkenazi Jews, or European Jews who are more German than Semite.
     
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    So toss away the Geneva Convention. They signed on to it but didn't honor it. Israel is run by a bunch of dimwits and the US suck up to these dimwits for no good reason,
     
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    Dumb conclusion. Disliking Israel government isn't the same as being anti-semite. You can stuff that fake boogeyman.
     
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    Except Israel never EARNED their land. It was a political land give away. So you can stop with the winner loser BS.
     
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    Well, they fought for it in 67.

    BTW,, they won.
     
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    Only the USA is fine with it. Note only dumb Trump recognizes the Golan Heights as being belong to Israel.
     

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