Jihad in Islam — Muslim leaders define Jihad to suit…

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    “In the language of the Divine Law, this word (jihad) is used specifically for the war that is waged solely in the name of God against those who perpetrate oppression as enemies of Islam. This supreme sacrifice is the responsibility of all Muslims.” Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, author of “Jihad in Islam” and “Towards Understanding Islam”.

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    I have met two outspoken and profound Canadian Muslims, Tarek Fatah and Salim Mansur, who are denigrated by clerics and believers of Islam. They are likely considered apostates, non-believers or converts, for speaking and writing about reform and modernity. Often, I read their articles and comments in the Toronto Sun or other periodicals and online sites.

    There are many egregious incidents that have been perpetrated by Muslims and their jihad, which Muslim leaders and clerics define as more peaceful rather than holy war. War happens when they are attacked or feel oppressed.

    First Casualty of War: Truth – Tarek Fatah, Toronto Sun (to be linked)

    The following I read in Tarek Fatah's piece in the Saturday Sun:


    Syed Qutb, another Egyptian stalwart of the Islamist movement and the Muslim Brotherhood, in his book Milestones writes the following.

    "Any place where Islamic shariah is not enforced and where Islam is not dominant becomes the Home of Hostility (Dar-ul-harb)... A Muslim will remain prepared to fight against it., whether it be his birthplace or a place where his property or any other material interests are located."


    A prime example of spinning the truth is the horrible murders by jihadist Mohamed Merah of Toulouse, France. Jihadists are influenced at early ages, regardless where they come from or are born, because it is “written” and taught, continuously. It doesn’t matter if they are predators for a jihad – perhaps, it’s even better, that the young jihadists are lone wolves, since the Islamists, and Islamic organizations condemn them as insane or against Islam and the Koran. However, they are reluctant to condemn tribes and nations, such as Iran, that promote holy war, or nations that harbor jihadists, such as Pakistan.

    Pakistan must be held accountable – Salim Mansur
    http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/30/mansur-pakistan-must-be-held-accountable#disqus_thread

    "It should be obvious that travelling to Pakistan from Europe, or anywhere else, by a non-Pakistani requires arranging for a Pakistani visa.

    It is also obvious that young men like Merah required visas to head out for Pakistan, and for them to readily acquire visas means there is in place arrangements within some of the Pakistani consular offices abroad to assist foreign jihadis in their mission." Salim Mansur


    There are times I feel sad for progressive and educated Muslims, who have emigrated to democracies or were born in democratic nations, and truly desire peace and a better life. But, the medieval doctrine, the ideology of submission and jihad, is promulgated and proselytized. Converts, sometimes, can be worse.
     
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    Military not in step with 'no war against Islam'...
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    Why was the US military teaching 'total war' on Islam?
    10 May 2012 - Martin Dempsey has ordered an investigation into how the class was approved for teaching
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - dat's Billy Graham's boy, Franklin - better lissen to him...
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    Granny says, "Dat's right" - dat's why she keeps her Mossburg 12ga. locked an' loaded w/ rocksalt...
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    Granny says, "Dat's right, you tell `em Rev - if dey did worship the same God, dey'd call him Jehovah too...
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    Islam not welcome in Germany & France...
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    Sounds to me like Franklin Graham is an anti-Semite.
     
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    How so? What makes him anti Semite?
     
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    Nope.

    Wanna know what expects Satanic Arabia and Islam? Watch carefully.

     
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    Jihad means 'striving or struggling', It can mean the struggle against one's evil inclinations, or efforts toward the moral betterment of society.[1][2][4] In classical Islamic law, the term refers to armed struggle against unbelievers,[2][3] while modernist Islamic scholars generally equate military jihad with defensive warfare.[5][6] In Sufi and pious circles, spiritual and moral jihad has been traditionally emphasized under the name of greater jihad.[7][3] The term has gained additional attention in recent decades through its use by terrorist groups.

    1. John L. Esposito, ed. (2014). "Jihad". The Oxford Dictionary of Islam. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
    2. Peters, Rudolph; Cook, David (2014). "Jihād". The Oxford Encyclopedia of Islam and Politics. Oxford: Oxford University Press. (subscription required (help)).
    3. Tyan, E. (2012). "D̲j̲ihād". In P. Bearman, Th. Bianquis, C.E. Bosworth, E. van Donzel, W.P. Heinrichs. Encyclopaedia of Islam (2nd ed.). Brill. (subscription required (help)).
    4. Gerhard Böwering, Patricia Crone, ed. (2013). "Jihad". The Princeton Encyclopedia of Islamic Political Thought. Princeton University Press.
    5. Wael B. Hallaq (2009). Sharī'a: Theory, Practice, Transformations. Cambridge University Press (Kindle edition). pp. 334–33
    6. Peters, Rudolph (2015). Islam and Colonialism: The Doctrine of Jihad in Modern History. DE GRUYTER MOUTON. p. 124 – via De Gruyter.
    7. Rudolph Peters (2005). "Jihad". In Lindsay Jones. Encyclopedia of Religion. 7 (2nd ed.). MacMillan Reference USA. p. 4917.
    Further: What Jihad is or is not.
     
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    According to muslims, Mickey is a badass and must go..:)

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    Shall I post the similar comments made by Million Moms and other conservatives about "Beauty and the beast?" Basing your comments on what the loonies say is not helpful.
     

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