Jim Jordan gets Strzok to admit Bruce Ohr GAVE the FBI the Steele dossier!

You do realize that the "material" in question is complete bullshit?

 

Lol....Did you hear the Dems during the questioning? They sounded ridiculous. I don't like most Republicans, but I have no idea how people take Democrats seriously.

 

I don't take either seriously. It was a total waste of taxpayer money. The real testimony was collected in the closed-door session.

 

Because the Constitution says that Congress has power over the DOJ and FBI, and neither are cooperating with releasing material requested, as you must know.

Trump is being asked to release all related material and my guess is that he will, a little at a time. This will drive the Democrats even crazier.

Aren't you interested to learn what the FBI and DOJ were up to, and why they're not releasing, or redacting, so much material?

 

That is some high end Russian graphics champ, first rate propaganda. We know they absolutely HATE Strzok because he busted a whole bunch of Commie "illegals" a few years back and ruined an operation that was decades in the making. That's what this whole deal is about. Otherwise why would we have a bunch of rabid Congressmen visciously attacking our best counterespionage agent?

 

Trump's the lefts daddy for at least another 6.5 years.

He will pick at least 2 (hopefully 3) SCOTUS justices.

 

Trump's the lefts daddy for at least another 6.5 years.

He will pick at least 2 (hopefully 3) SCOTUS justices.

 

Not really...once I realized their terrible strategy, I tuned them out... as I read somewhere, other than a few exceptions, the people on those 2 committees are not the sharpest tools in the Congressional shed, on both sides...

 

Correct about power over, especially funding. Disagreed on "cooperation" for the reasons I said in the rest of my post:

 

A nice guess, but not a certainty.

 

Correct about Congress. You keep dodging the question about evidence of "cooperating...as they should". That phrasing is vague as mist.

Do you admit that it's a crime for the FBI and DOJ to defy Congress? Do you admit that Congress can bring charges against agency leadership? That Trump can fire appointed heads of agencies? Do you know what was said in closed door sessions or just the grandstanding bullshit being shown on Fox?

 

Yes, it's a crime to defy Congress and they can bring charges against DOJ and FBI leadership. Yes, Trump can fire the heads of agencies and did so with Comey. Fox News???

"Cooperating as they should" means these agencies should hand over all documents requested, unredacted and in a timely fashion. Why is that vague when it's been discussed since Nunes first released his memo?

Remember Nancy Pelosi?

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/02/02/pelosi-nunes-trump-gop-memo/

Any "Constitutional Crisis" will only occur should FBI and DOJ refuse to release the unredacted documents. What Pelosi likely meant is that it would be a crisis for the Democrats, and she would be correct.

 

Awesome! So if what you say is true, then I expect the charges to be coming out soon and that Trump will be firing Sessions and Wray forthwith.

OTOH, if what you claim is not valid, that both the FBI and DOJ are doing their jobs properly, then nothing will happen...except for more hot air from certain politicians.

 

Perhaps, but my guess is that he'll drag this out closer to the midterms. He will, as members of Congress have long wanted, order the release of more documents.

All related documents and FISAs will eventually be released, perhaps in late September when summer is over and closer to the midterms.

 

Trey Gowdy just said straight out there was no reason to remove Rosenstein.

http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/397127-gowdy-rules-out-rosenstein-impeachment
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Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) on Sunday ruled out the possibility of impeaching Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, saying there is not enough support for his ouster.

"Impeach him for what?" Gowdy said on CBS's "Face the Nation." "No."
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That's probably why the Trump cultists are so worked up today. Their own most favorite hero just tossed them all under the bus.

I wonder what's up with Gowdy. I'm thinking maybe he sees the writing on the wall, and he doesn't want to be prosecuted for conspiracy against the USA.

 

A possibility, but I strongly doubt anything will happen because the blowhard politicians are just grandstanding.

Agreed. That's the problem with conspiracy theories; everything eventually leaks be it the Manhattan Project, the Pentagon Papers or Watergate. If anyone in the FBI or DOJ was hiding stuff, someone in those groups is certainly going to be patriotic enough to ensure the information is released.

 

We don't know who is which yet. But there is little evidence so far that there was every any 'collusion'.

Apparently there are FBI agents who are prepared to testify, Special Agent Joe Pientka among them. But, again, they are waiting.

 

Agreed, but I'm certain time will tell. It always does.

Collusion is a side issue and I agree Trump didn't collude....although he doesn't help his case by sucking up to Putin.

Great! Looking forward to more FBI agents testifying. I fully support investigating all parts of our government, even if some ass clowns call such investigations a "witch hunt".

 

If you agree that there was no collusion, and never any evidence of such, then there was no real reason for this Special Prosecutor. A "Witch Hunt" pretty much fits the definition.

Don't be so quick to drop the 'sucking up' card yet. This has just begun.

 

Disagreed. The fact the Russians hacked the DNC email accounts, and most likely the RNC email accounts, is enough for an investigation. The fact there are several curious interactions between Trump's campaign and the Russians is a secondary reason for an investigation. It's not a witch hunt. It's a hunt to find out what happened and how to prevent it from happening again. A secondary reason is to prosecute anyone participated in this attack.

He's been sucking up since day one by denying the Russians ever did anything wrong and he still thinks that way. Why?

 

I certainly agree but the sad fact is that they aren't investigating the DNC and, in fact, the DNC refused to turn over their servers. That's a mystery. Investigating just one party over Russian involvement in an election seems rather foolish and short-sighted, doesn't it?

There has t be a crime before a Special Counsel is named, or in fact any criminal investigation. This is a criminal investigation in search of a crime.

How what happened? And to prevent what from happening again? There is no evidence of a Trump/Russian collusion and never was. It's a con job foisted on a gullible electorate who can't understand why their candidate lost.

What would be the point? Do you really believe Trump and his advisors don't know Putin?

 

Says who? Blowhard politicians? Your contact inside Mueller's investigation? Please give me the details on what Mueller is investigating and what he isn't.

 

Did Peter Strozk or Comey investigate the Clinton campaign. Is it your understanding that Mueller is investigating Clinton or the DNC and their ties ro Russia? Will they ever comment on the FISA or the Dossier?

I don't think so. It's all Trump.

 

Comey. It's my understanding that Mueller is investigating the Russian influence on the election. Yes, this would include Clinton and the DNC.

 

Meaning what? If there were "8 eye witness accounts", was the doctor ever charged by any of those 8? And more to the point, why would it have been mr Jordan's obligation to report those instances absent the witness or the victim? Perhaps you can explain that logic.