Jim Rickards - “Trump Will Win Again”

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  1. Paul7

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    But dementia Joe and the radical Harris would really appeal to the Founders, right? Hamilton and Jefferson were big fans of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, and Jefferson said:

    "To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

    That wise statement condemns the entire Democratic Party raison d'etre.
     
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    LOL sure there are. That's why you want someone else to find the eivdence to support your laughable claims because you can't.

    Thanks for once again proving you have no evidence to back up a word you claim.

    And I expect you to be one of those never Trumpers who continue to make worthless no evidence claims then attack those who point out you don't have a leg of facts to stand on.

    Thanks for proving it once again.
     
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    Good post. I, however, will go with the current system as it works today to prevent the President from being elected by New York, San Francisco and Chicago. Simple as that.
     
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    I beg to disagree, and since I know you hate President Trump, your statement may far be removed from the truth. I know it, you know it.
     
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    And this is the most honest answer I've seen so far. And that's fine, though I don't know if what you fear would come true. After all, republicans in the past have wanted to do away with the electoral college, so it's not like how things are at the moment indicates how they will always be in terms of popular voting.
     
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    I'm not the only one, so did Madison, Jefferson, Washington, Adams, Hamilton, Gerry, and the rest of them. We should elect elites to elite positions. I have no business being president and neither do you. Would you perform open heart surgery if enough of us voted for you to do so?

    No, you are wrong. The founders loved the status quo. They loved their version of it, not all of England's but much of it, just ask Hamilton who praised the English system of government. If Trump were as he is today, no, he would not get much support from a group of men. One of the founders once clapped Washington on the back during a joke..it didn't go over well, and that was just a friendly pat on the back. Trump would be run out of the country by such people in that day. Today's standards are different, but far from originalist, which again, I'm not the originalist here, you guys are the right supposedly are.
     
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    As the late Wm. F. Buckley said, I'd rather be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than the faculty of Harvard University.
     
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    That's tricky ground because Adam Smith also disliked tariffs and praised free and open markets of all kinds, so would he find Trump fit for office?

    Also, he wasn't a huge fan of corporations...

    So guys like Trump, who manage other people's money and not his own (he does, if you don't that's a lack of understanding of how he finances and runs his corporation), would be a big no no for Adam Smith.

    Lastly, you quoting Jefferson against democrats is ironic. It was his party that evolved into the democratic party of today. He was the most populist of all the founding fathers, as much as one could call Jefferson that. It's also ironic he died with about 2 million in debt in todays dollars and often said debt should be forgiven every 7 years automatically. Sound like something you agree with? The only reason they didn't take Montecello was because he was...Thomas Jefferson, so it sounds like even he got something without paying for it...what would you call that again...?

    https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/debt

    Huh, look at that.
     
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    That's dumb. Half of those guys are addicted to oxycontin. Also, Boston is going to vote Biden, so...maybe pick the first 2,000 names of somewhere in Montana? I get the point, but it's ironic you would use that quote considering Massachusetts even at that time would override the popular votes of many Americans...if it weren't for the EC. So clearly Buckley nor you would actually like that.
     
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    You miss the point, IF those were the two choices, I would reject your Harvard elites.

    Good news from the Trump Scranton rally today:

    80.1% of attendees have not voted yet.
    21.2% are not Republicans.
    24.9% did not vote in 2016.
     
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    Much more than AOC and the rest of the socialists in your party today.

    I don't care what someone does with their own money.
     
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    Is Rickard still predicting a Trump win? OP’s video was posted 5 days ago.
     
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    Probably even more so.
     
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    It is to riot and plot to overthrow the government.
     
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    Forgot to add a point and ask a question. Are you sure the current system is good for the GOP long term? The current system is not that different than letting a handful of population centers decide. It basically comes down to a handful of states, six or so, deciding the presidency. Altering the current system may require candidates to campaign in states they never have such as New York, California, and smaller ones too. When was the last time the GOP had to convince voters in blue states? And the dems in red?

    Currently, the GOP relies heavily on rural states to add up votes. Rural America is always on the knife's edge economic wise. And the only way to keep it afloat is with tax payer dollars to subsidize infrastructure they need, something local GOP officials do but nationally is considered socialism. When rural America goes under, those Americans move to cities where their votes are now diluted by comparison. It's a long term electoral problem the GOP didn't used to have given it's New England and California roots back in the day. But it's a high risk, moderate probability problem they face going forward and would impact them severely under the current electoral system for president.

    Democrats get to ignore large swaths of rural America for this very same reason. As such, they are less obligated to uphold ideals that would help that part of the country. The problem is simply allowing more people with less progressive ideals into the tent. Right now, they stop at the mid point, but if they dipped just a bit right, it would give them an advantage.

    Changing the system, which isn't to say you have to abolish the EC, may solidify both parties with voters they currently ignore.
     
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    They would have had no problem with Joe Biden at all.
     
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    LOL, they would have rejected the party of AOC, Bernie Sanders & Co.
     
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    Trump parade in Nigeria:

     
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    I'm actually Canadian but I heard it said that back in 1776 most of the States did not want to join the Union and if it were not for the electoral college system they WOULD NOT have joined with the thirteen colonies!

    The logic would be that New York and California would pretty much own the Presidency if it were not for the quite brilliant electoral college system.
     
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    Yes.... there is a school of thought that Joe Biden was the LEAST UNELECTABLE of all the potential DNC leaders!


    New Hampshire is reporting that 61.5 percent of votes so far (16 votes) are for President Trump and Biden has only 38.5 percent, (ten votes).

    https://www.google.com/search?q=USA...&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&ssui=on
     
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    Care to revise and extend your predictions now?
     

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