Johns Hopkins Study: US Was Most Prepared Country in the World for Pandemics

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    The liberal agenda is more important to Democrats than American lives or our economic well being...
     
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    You see, if we 'blamed' China like we should, that would open up bipartisan criticism of politicians who took Chinese yuan's and enslaved us to the Chinese government, to be systematically killed like cattle for the CCP.

    The one thing that I assure people hasn't changed, is that I blame the CCP and the Chinese government for the crisis.
     
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    I knew America was the best prepared when Trump shut down travel to and from China, even though the left called him a racist for it. I knew America was the best prepared when even after we were all exposed and still gathering in groups larger than 50, we only had a couple thousand cases out of 330,000,000 people. I knew America was the best prepared everywhere expect the major metropolitan areas controlled by democrats.

    But democrats will never admit to Trump being prepared because positivism towards Trump is against their gang rules and will get them banished or killed.
     
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    Studies about the theoretical ability of different countries to handle the virus met the real world response from each country to the virus.

    The United States is currently adding more cases than any other country in the world and we will very soon overtake Italy for the 2nd most cases in the world - probably by Friday. We will then likely pass China by early next week.

    The mortality rate in the US will hopefully stay lower than the global average, but that will entirely depend on how quickly we can reduce the rate of new cases.
     
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    You're comparing a nation of 60M with one of 330M.
     
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    Do you happen to recall how long ago you were responding to posts about the impending threat to Americans by noting that the Total Infections per Million at that point was ~2?

    In the ~14 days since that point, we are now at 156.
     
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    I also compared a nation of 330M with a nation of 1.3 Billion.
     
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    I'd like to know how they came to that conclusion. South Korea shut everything down and did a ton of testing. Meanwhile in the US, we are still dragging our feet on taking this seriously and testing got delayed for weeks. As a result South Korea peaked at 7,500 cases weeks ago and it is falling. Meanwhile in the US, we have 52,000 active cases, and the number of cases is growing by 30% every day. Also, since we did a lot less testing than the Koreans, our numbers are vastly underestimating the number actually infected more than they are. We will be the first country to have 100,000 official cases in a few days. That doesn't sound like "most prepared country in the world" to me.
     
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    THANK YOU, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP!

     
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    Like I said, the theory met the real world.
     
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    ....for?
     
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    Not listening to the WHO and Biden and restricting China travel.
     
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    Neither said restricting that type of travel was a bad idea.

    With that said, do you have any evidence that decision had any noticeable impact?
     
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    Yes they did, the WHO in late January was saying no need for a travel restriction and Biden called it xenophobic.

    Ask Dr. Fauci, he said it did. I thought everyone knew that.
     
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    It isn't what our hospitals have experienced??Tonight we are learning that the PPE's from FEMA, which are just now being sent to states, contain PPE's which are already well beyond their expiration dates.Which begs the question, WHY ARE THEY JUST GETTING THEM NOW????They are obviously old supplies?????Somebody needs to be fired ASAP.
     
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    No, they did not.

    Dr. Fauci offered no evidence as far as I am aware. Did he?
     
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    I think anyone who works for trump knows that they must praise trump in order to get anything substantive accomplished.

    And I have no doubt that the partial travel restriction had some impact, but I have yet to see anyone attempt to quantify that impact.

    And more importantly, the problems that America is currently facing and projected to face in the immediate future suggests that whatever benefit was garnered from that one move was wasted by trump's dozen or more ****ups.
     
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    More than doing nothing as Biden would have done, that we know.

    All bunk, Dr. Fauci has said the administration has done a pretty good job. Face it, this in a global pandemic, no matter whose butt is in the WH.
     
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    So what?

    That still DOESN'T excuse the FACT that Trump waited too long to take the threat seriously.

    Why was Trump still holding Big Rallies (and helping SPREAD the Virus) less than a month ago?

    Trump (obviously) didn't take the threat seriously enough (at the beginning).
     
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    "The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHCHS) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by Democrats that the Trump administration left the country vulnerable to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.

    The Global Health Security Index was "developed with guidance from an international panel of experts from 13 countries, with research by the Economist Intelligence Unit" from 2018 to 2019, The Washington Post reported last year. "More than 100 researchers spent a year collecting and validating publicly available data.”"


    Go figure, the Trump-haters are wrong again, and the mainstream media spin is wrong again.

    I like how that article corrects some of the left's favorite and most oft-perpetuated lies, too (like the lie about the "hoax", and the lie about Trump cutting CDC funding.)
     
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    Of course the USA is #1.

    Funny enough Dems and the MSM criticized Trump for closing travel from China, and several weeks later from Europe.

    And if Trump re opens travel by Easter-they will complain about that.
     
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    So...no attempt to quantify and instead a very weak ass attempt to criticize the hypothetical actions of someone who did not lie about the virus, did not contradict his health experts, did not downplay the threat of the virus, did not tout the benefits of the virus, did not dismantle the epidemic response team, did not dismiss the CDC official tasked with knowing about China viruses, did not blame the stock market on a democratic debate, did not intentionally place Americans at increased risk, and did not slow roll testing out of a fear that the numbers would hurt his re-election.

    Trump did all of those things.
     
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    USA will be #1 in terms of most confirmed infections for any country worldwide by early next week.

    Bet.
     

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