Journalists Display Weapons-Grade Stupidity Trying to Identifying Gun Used in GOP Shooting

Twaddle.

 

I kind of like to know. It gives me more of a feel for what went on. Plus I like to be able to equate the damage to a specific weapon, and round. Look at the seriousness of the wound that it caused Scalise. I've seen a lot of lower body wounds from that round, shattered femurs, etc. The SKS may be old but in 7.62x39, which it usually is, it's still a deadly weapon.

 

SKS is a solid rifle. Can be a bit inaccurate though.

The 7.62x39 round packs a hell of a punch, but it may have saved Scalia's life. A 5.56 round likely would have bounced off his pelvis and quite possibly into his upper torso.

 

From lefties? You might be right.

 

75 years ago

 

Medical reports on the Congressman state that the bullet fragmented in the pelvis, which probably make the weapon used to shoot him chambered in 5.56/223. The 7.62 Russian is a highly stable round without much tendency to yaw a reputation for penetration and through and through wounds if FMC ammo was used.

 

It has been reported the firearm used was a Chinese SKS. 7.62X39.

 

It's also been reported as M4 type rifle, so we'll have to see especially since the press has a tendency to get these things wrong. From the wounding described it would atypical performance for military grade FMC 7.62 Russian. Mil spec ammo will go through small trees without much evidence for yawing. IF he was using soft point or HP ammo then quite possible and the bullet shed its jacket.

 

If the round hits bone you aren't going to get a clean through and through. I've seen fragmented/shattered femurs from AK, 7.62x39, wounds lead to limb amputation.

 

Actually Tom, FMJ like in a 7.62 Russian will just clip a long bone or punch right through. You only shatter long bones like a femur at a significant angle. Limb salvage was pretty advanced even in your day and loss of a limb is more often related to vascular compromise and not bone destruction.

 

I'd say there is enough variation in terminal ballistics to not use words like "always" or "never".

 

In 1968 ward 15, the main orthopedic ward at Chelsea Naval hospital, was lined up and down both sides with Marines who's femurs had been shattered/fragmented/broken by AK wounds. But yes, most of the amputations were the result of the vascular injuries that occurred as a result of these wounds. Something I'm very familiar with. However they were able to save my leg.

 

Money says most of those long bones were hit more than once. If you got a pedal pulse and warm toes you're golden. The bone grafts will take care of the rest. I've seen problems with through and through thigh wounds not hitting anything but muscle causing vascular compromise and compartment syndrome.

 

Trump has not inspired hate crimes, that is liberal inspired hogwash.

 

Why do you think that is?

 

My situation was a little different so I had casts on both legs, skin grafts, and the removal of a section of the popliteal artery due to a pseudo aneurism. The femur wounded were in traction for 3 months, followed by essentially a full body cast for 3 months to prevent movement. So it was a 6 month ordeal. I never heard of anyone getting a bone graft in there, but I certainly can't pretend to have been privy to, or aware of, everything that went on.

There was a guy who had a gunshot wound to the lower spine. Not paralyzed. He may have had a graft.

Very unusual, extremely rare, was a guy on ward 14 with multiple shrapnel wounds below the waist. He was flown to NY for an amputation at the waist. He survived the procedure, returned to us, and later went to a VA hospital in Vermont. How long he lived beyond the couple of years I kept track of, heard about, him, I don't know.

Anyway, gunshot wounds, war wounds, etc., are serious business.

 

As has been said before...
Trump did not cause the hatred and insanity of the left, he revealed it.
Thus, hate crimes have gone up.

 

Besides, who cares about the ravings of Cry baby liberal lunatics ?
Mad because Trump won the election ?
There is zero evidence beyond annecdotal, that hate crimes have increased.

 

I think you meant reveled in it.

 

If you want to argue that Trump caused the left to revel in its pre-existing hatred and insanity, be my guest

 

Gee hard to imagine why Trump claiming all Muslims are evil could possibly increase hate crimes. And then of course there is his treatment of women, his general attempts to divide the country, etc,etc.

 

Yep just one of those amazing coincidences.

 

Yep, the left is certainly responsible for the preponderance of hate crimes in this country. Sure it is!

 

Funny how you will only imply a post hoc fallacy, rather than outright state it.
Its almost like you know its a post hoc fallacy but don't want to be called on it.

 

I'm sorry you don't like the fact Trump's election revealed the pre-existing hatred and insanity of the left.