Judicial Watch: Justice Department Discloses No FISA Court Hearings Held on Carter Page Warrants

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  1. TomFitz

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    You entire claim rests on an action Jeff Session took, which was so obviously political that it hardly bears noting.

    You have yet to provide a single shred of evidence to support your claim that the astroturf right wing groups that suddenly appeared in 2010, and all of which showed abnormal interest in incorporating under section 501c4 of the tax code were targeted strictly for political reasons.

    Nor can you document any claim that even one of these groups was prevented from forming or conducting their activities (which largely consisted of being front groups for Washington based right wing lobbying firms and public relantions shops). The organizers wanted to hide the fact that the tea party movment was an orchestrated public relations campaign run from DC by secret money, and not a "grass roots" movement.

    Indeed, by the time this story even came up, most of these groups had disappears in all but name. The money dried up promptly on election night in 2010. And the "grass roots" withered on the vine for two years, until the rubes put their tri corner hats in the closet. (where they will sit next to their MAGA hats soon).
     
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    Exactly.

    Jeff Sessions "admitting" what wasn't true to begin with--i.e. the evil Obama people were "targeting" nice conservatives---is meaningless.
     
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    What is the OP source for the supposition that "meetings" on warrants regularly occur, or that they are approved by more than a single judge?
     
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  4. The Mello Guy

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    They don’t, we found that out last year when this was first reported. I guess they forgot lol
     
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    The same DOJ who refused to charge her with a crime lol
     
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    The only thing that the OP demonstrates is that either "Judicial Watch" (*LOL*) either has no clue how warrants are issued, or does understand how it works and is manipulating the ignorant.
     
  7. TomFitz

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    They've been peddling this nonsense every since Sebastian Gorka cooked up that ridiculous kubuki where Nunes got handed some spin by the White House with instructions to run over to the White House in the middle of the night to tell TRump what he had "found".

    I have wondered for two years why this elaborate and hoax has continued to be repeated in the right wing media. It was hinckey from the very start, and it collapsed in gaffaws of laughter within days.

    But it's gospel to the "shoot somebody on 5th Ave crowd.

    What interests me is that this campaign is being kept alive and it centers around Carter Page.

    Which begs the question. Why are they so anxious to protect Carter Page???????
     
  8. TomFitz

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    Door number two.

    Right wing media counts on the ignorance of its audience. They know that between the junior high school understanding of how the world work and the short attentions span, they can tell their audience just about anything as long as it fits their prejudices.
     
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    No, my entire claim does not rest on the DOJ's decision to settle a lawsuit filed against the New McCarthyites at the IRS. It also rests on its blatant wrongdoing, its admission it was engaged in wrongdoing and scofflaws like Lois Lerner copping the Fifth to conceal their wrongdoing.

    As for your portrayal of TEA Party groups I know for a fact that many of them were formed and led by grassroots conservatives who never received any direction or money from outside their organizations, and despite your claim that they promptly dried up after 2010 many of them are still around today.

    It is hilarious how the emergence of these and other grassroots conservative and libertarian groups have scared the sh*t out of "progressives" and for good reason. First, they played a huge role in destroying the Democrats' majorities in Congress and halting Obama's agenda, then many of them went on to elevate Trump to the presidency. For a bunch of "rubes" they sure have gotten the better of the self-styled "geniuses" on the Left who keep losing to them over and over again. That's why they're still running around in their MAGA hats triggering the angry Lefties whose "I'm With Her" swag made its way into America's landfills years ago. :lol:
     
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    Yeah, that's why Lois Lerner copped the Fifth on numerous occasions - she was concealing her innocence. :lol:
     
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    It rather obviously does, since you failed to cite anything else to support your claims.

    As for the tea party being a front for a well organized and orchestrated GOP astroturf campaign, there is little doubt of that.

    It's the main reason all these instant "grass roots" groups suddenly got so politically savvy that every one of the knew to incorporate under the previously obscure and seldom used 501c4 section of the tax code. They could have incorporated under any number of other legal forms, and most political organizations before then did.

    One didn't have to look too far to find that nearly all of the major tea party groups were fronts. A couple of them were outright frauds, preying on the gullibility of the tri corner hat crowd and pocketing their money.

    Freedom Works and Americans for Prosperity were the Kochs.

    Tea Party Patriots were in the camp.

    Tea Party Express was a front from teh right wing PR firm, Russo Rogers.

    Others were merely the usual direct mail fundraisng scams taht permeate much of the GOP and conservative wrold.
     
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    She did it twice, You don't know why.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After you said this to him "since you failed to cite anything else to support your claims.", You proceeded to do what you accused him of.

    Funny when you did it.
     
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    Well, we certainly wouldn't want to investigate that, would we??

    Insane that this concept is off limits to some people, but it's likely the people that would want to see a Carter Page working hard for the Russians..

    Carter Page Hill... RIP Trumpublicans..
     
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    So you think.
     
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    She is walking free because the Obama DOJ refused to prosecute her just like with Clinton, they protected their own.

    Isn't currently under another review?
     
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    Ok but why is this in current events when the article is from August of 2018?
     
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    Mueller removed Strzok. << :sleepy:
     
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    Oh yes ... the title of the report definitely alters the the facts. :rolls: I'm sure all the biased agents were questioned about the agencies. Horowitz found the DOJ / FBI regulations, and protocols were insubordinate? Schiff was onto something when he said some Americans are too stupid to understand reports.
     
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    Wow, you don't know what any of the words you used means, do you?

    A oligarchy isn't fascism necessarily. Oligarchy is rule by the rich and wealthy, which we have, don't worry, but in the form of a republic, so all's well. Yes, Nazi's and fascists are right wingers. Sorry your crap stinks!

    As for the judges not meeting, here's required reading before you and your toadies try to make this out like FISA court is a court room drama on TV. There is no required "hearing" at all.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-fisa-court-really-works

    So please stop acting like ignorance is knowledge. I know it's popular on your side of the aisle these days, but let's try to avoid popularity for the sake of accuracy! Thanks.
     
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    If any of that were true, I would be worried. Since it's all fantasy made up by the guy who's been working with Russians for decades, I'm not worried at all about it.
     
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    Exactly.

    This "Ooooh! Waaaahhh! Obama spied on me!!" screed is utter crap made to be believed and consumed by ignorant people.
     
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    Why did they show up as a national security risk, in the first place?
     
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    Who's "they"?
     

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