Jullian Assange has been arrested following removal of asylum by the Ecuadorian Government

You're the one who is uninformed Mike.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/state-anti-bds-laws-are-hitting-unintended-targets-and-nobodys-happy/

You're welcome.

 

Understand that I agree with you that IN THEORY it is not a crime. And I agree that the First Amendment applies, but I also agree that the Fourth Amendment has been rendered null and void by the patriot act, so IN REALITY it is a crime.

I'm hoping for the best, that the US judiciary will discover it has a spine. With one decision supporting BDS and the First Amendment, they are off to a good start.

But in reality, 20+ states still have such statutes on their books, and AIPAC is working hard to get such a statute on the federal level.

 

Craig Murray "Anyone who believes Julian Assange's case is genuinely independent is a fool"

 

Typical forum leftist. Lose an argument and immediately move on to another, totally unrelated claim.

 

If you were following the topic more closely you might have realized that law was exactly the one that was overturned.

You're welcome.

 

We are talking about the Right attempting to make BDS a crime; and also why Assange is being treated like a criminal.

1. As a another poster has pointed out

<But in reality, 20+ states still have such statutes on their books, and AIPAC is working hard to get such a statute on the federal level.>

2. I'm exploring WHY it is the Right would like to criminalize BDS, and also convict Assange as a criminal (etc, eg, and why the Right always want to increase military spending while decreasing social spending).

That is: what is the basis of your world view.

Very much on topic, I think. So here it is again:

The US, and some other governments, support MAD...or (non-nuclear) 'mad', which is in any case the legal destruction of life, and therefore an oxymoron, and the antithesis of rule of law.
National military-security complexes, grounded in the reptilian brain, still 'rule' the world. That's why Assange is in jail.

Hope this helps.

 

It was declared null and void ONLY in Texas.

In the other 26 states they are considered to be still in force.

AIPAC influences the US political process in many ways.

 

No it did not help at all. It's too incoherent. First, you incorrectly stated what we were discussing. It wasn't "the Right attempting to make BDS a crime." It was that you stating that criticism of of Israel and BDS is a crime in the US. It isn't, as I've demonstrated, and as I stated, once you've been defeated, you try to change the subject, as you tried once again to do in your very first sentence in this post.

 

Wow.

It was declared null and void "ONLY in Texas" because it was a Texas state law.

 

Actually I'm prepared to concede defeat on the point re BDS, if indeed "it was declared null and void "ONLY in Texas" because it was a Texas state law". etc

However, I'll bet you don't want to explore why the Right insists on the right to make war rather than institute an international rules-based system, the absence of which is why Assange is in jail.

Changing the subject?

 

Does Assange support “BDS”?

 

That's absolutely changing the subject. Why don't you start a thread about it?

 

Did you know there are and have been efforts to have it made a federal crime too?

Do you acknowledge that by the letter of the law, such prohibitions exist in 20+ other states?

 

I have a suspicion as to what those "prohibitions" really are, but I'll give you the courtesy of allowing you to post them.

 

Because I want you to confront the world view underlying Assange's imprisonment.
Exposing that world view (eg, belief in absolute national sovereignty and other assorted Neanderthal tendencies...) is obviously on topic.

 

No you are way off topic.

 

You are displaying the ideological blindness - based in the reptilian brain and Its associated effects on the cortex brain - which prevents you from perceiving the underlying reasons for Assange's imprisonment.

"Know thyself"......

 

I would say once again, no you are wrong. However feel free to describe my "ideological blindness." I'm curious about what you mean.

 

Consciousness/awareness in the individual - residing in the cortex brain - is compromised/limited by unconscious survival instincts residing in the reptilian and mammalian brains.

Since each individual, from conception, experiences 'reality' differently (even at the micro level within the same family), individuals in the aggregate tend to 'congregate' around ideologies which are perceived as objective truth, but which in reality are subjective. Note that an important function of a particular ideology is to further the survival and promote the self-interests of the individual (or group) holding to that ideology.

That should explain the term 'ideological blindness'.

Example: some Libertarians hold to the delusion that individual liberty, not counterbalanced by rule of law, is compatible with community well-being (see below)

Now, as for Assange:

Power structures are based on these subjective/ideological 'truths' (regardless of their relation to actual objective truths such as, eg, E=mc.c, or conceptions of Rights as outlined in the UN Universal Declaration of Rights, which are cortex-based concepts not compromised by self-serving ideologies deriving from the reptilian brain of individuals).

In 1946, great power rivalry prevented adoption of the proposed visionary, cortex-conceived concept of an international rules based system, resulting in the continuation of the old system of absolute national sovereignty (based on self-interested reptilian- brain instincts), and nonsensical concepts such as 'legal' war between nations - the antitheses of reason, justice and legality in the international sphere.

Assange exposed some of the crimes associated with this 'legal war' absurdity.

 

OK it doesn't look like we have a common enough view of the world to have a discussion.

 

Of course you are the one to close the discussion. You don't want to shine a light on the issues; hiding behind your reptilian-brain based, blind, self-interested ideology is your method.

That's the whole point of your world view: in a naturally predatory, competitive and conflicted world, all that matters is the maximisation of your own access to the world's resources, hence your rebuttal of an international rules based system.

The next decade will be certainly be very interesting... as China steadily grows in economic strength, many of us will appreciate a Wikileaks to keep us in the picture, as the secretive military-security complexes of the US and China face off....

 

The irony that you don't see is it was an international system that would allow Assange to be extradited.
If anything, I think there's not enough national checks and balances on that system.

If Assange could have gone to Sweden without fear of being automatically extradited to the US, none of this would have happened.

You talk about an international rules based system but what can be used for good can also just as easily be used for evil.

 

Well from my "reptilian-brain" perspective, you sound like a loon, so I think I did us both a favor by closing things off. You went way off topic and in your delusion, thought your ramblings were the topic. Since I've no idea what you're talking about (in your divergence from the thread topic to blah blah blah...), you should thank me for cauterizing this bleeding wound.

 

Actually this is the crux of the issue that requires examination.

Fact is, you have no understanding of the influence of instinct on thought, belief and and behaviour. You can not have a "reptilian brain perspective" - the reptilian brain doesn't think or have 'perspectives'.

Now, what to do about that?

You can begin by studying the structure of the brain, and then move on to pondering the source of mutually exclusive ideologies that like to present themselves as 'truths', and then you might be capable of seeing the foundation the world view that condemns Assange for exposing some of the crimes of the US security-complex (but admittedly you have a long way to go before you will be able to even see that connection).

See above; in the meantime, stay calm.