Just remember, all of this unfair, unconsitutional stuff the left is doing

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    can also be done to them once the right is in power again

    we know they overstepped with the fake 1/6 committee and now with this fake raid

    I know times look dark, but just remember, what goes around comes around and I know republicans have morals and don't like to use power corruptly the way the left does, but they might have no choice but to fight fire with fire

    To all you leftists circle jerking over this double standard, don't worry, your time will come!
     
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    ECA Well-Known Member

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    What specifically was unconstitutional about the 1/6 committee and the Mar-a-Lago warrant?
     
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    Since you are asserting that you believe these things are constitutional, your burden. I know, you can't actually answer that question. So I think it should be fun to see what you come up with.
     
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    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Hahahaha....nice dodge. I haven't asserted anything. I did however ask a question. One you seem unable to answer. Color me surprised.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it was fishing. There MIGHT be SOME documents at his Mara Lago house? That's how its done now? Now they can raid anyone with no reason. They can say "we heard there might be some drugs stashed at your house"

    You guys are so Anti-Trump to the point where you are celebrating your own rights being taken away and your civil liberties crapped on.

    Now thats what call a good sheep!

    keep up the good work. Your democrat masters are proud!
     
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    Ah.. the interrogatory what if.... It's not like you'd have an answer though. So, you pose the attack as a question underlying your contention that you believe these things are constitutional. Otherwise, why ask the question? Ok, they aren't. I said so. Good enough for you?
     
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    The right has been unconstrained by ethics since at least Newt, maybe Nixon, and have regularly engaged in faux-outrage BS investigations when in power. I suppose if we assume they're not creative enough to come up with it themselves, then it could matter, but we know they have creative criminal minds. Raid seems legit from the info available though. FPOTUS isn't supposed to keep top secret documents in his house. They knew they were there and had even previously asked they be returned. I don't know if it's anything more nefarious than that, but at this point it is clear crimes were committed.
     
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    Let me try this again, what specifically was unconstitutional about both? If you can provide factual evidence both were unconstitutional then I will be with you. I find it odd that asking you to back up your claim makes me a democrat. Then again when I call out people who want to limit 2A they claim I'm a Repub. I guess people like you need to fit others into neat little boxes.
     
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    Exactly what people say who don't like to be held accountable.
     
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    Remember, what goes around comes around. There will be a time, even possibly this coming November, when the GOP will win elections again. What will you say if Dems then claim that the elections were stolen and the winner is illegitimate? You know, both parties can play this game. However, thanks to Trump, general mistrust in elections is now fair game and acceptable practice. My guess: You won't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

    On the other hand, should the GOP win back the House in November, you can rest assured that they will start numerous politicized investigations into the Biden administration, as revenge for the Trump impeachments. Of course, when that happens (not if), you will be sure to cheer on these investigations as totally justified. That's how partisans roll.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh thats easy. I would say "There was no evidence of WIDE SPREAD voter fraud". I'll just use "magic" words like the left does. Then I would work with all judges to dismiss any evidence (like was done with 2020)

    It won't be anything worth cheering over. It might make for a few good "I told you so" moments but in the grand scheme of things, 2 wrongs don't make a right. I don't want to see the GOP conducting witch hunts and wasting more tax dollars but it looks like the left has forced their hand and none of this will lead to "PROGRESS"
     
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    So, you don't want to be held accountable?
     
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    For what? I haven't made a claim. When I personally make a claim about something then by all means hold me accountable.
     
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    The Democrats haven’t overstepped in either case and in both cases the US Government has acted constitutionally. There nothing fake going on here. The Capitol was attacked and the former President made off with government property.

    In both cases the United States and it’s constitution is the victim. There were multiple perpetrators in the 1/6 stupidity and one we know of in the theft, the former President.

    Cheap threats won’t deter either pursuit.

    Although I do find it odd that MAGA Republican’s would engage in threats knowing Democrats possess space lasers.
     
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    Just remember, all of this unfair, unconsitutional stuff the left is doing

    What stuff is that since neither the 1/6 committee's investigation or the raid were "fake."
     
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    Its not good for the country, but I think you're right. One day, a Dem will get the trump-treatment.
     
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    Yes, our time is now. Enjoy!
     
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    Benghazi... Benghazi... Benghazi... Benghazi... Benghazi...
     
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    As far as I know Stalinist show trials are constitutional, but a warrant lacking particulars would be considered a violation of the Fourth Amendment. Even before the text of the warrant was released there were reports that the LEAs conducting the search and seizures didn't bother to look for any particular documents - they were just grabbing everything in sight. Again, unconstitutional.
     
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    I didn’t realize the warrant had been released to the public. I searched the web but couldn’t find it. Could you provide a link to it?
     
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    Yup - Google trump warrant mar a lago and you'll find it.
     
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    Are you sure? How do we know there weren't hidden plans for a new dangerous weapon hidden inside Melania's panty drawer?
     
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    Ehh..no. I don't think so. We had Republicans in charge of the House, Senate, and the Presidency for the first two years of Trump's Presidency, but they never had control of the government. The IC and the Justice Department was maneuvering to frame Trump for "Russia collusion" the entire time and worked overtime to throw obstacles in the way of every single policy; largely successfully. No matter how many elections the GOP wins it's not getting control of the government so they will never be "in power," only in office.
     
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    Just read it. Attachment B explains what was to be seized. Not sure how you missed that.
     
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    I didn't miss it, and people who know a lot more than I do about the law, warrants, searches, procedures, etc., such as former Attorney General Michael Mukasey described the warrant as so "unfocused" and "general" that it gave the LEAs at the scene license to seize "just about every piece of paper there". Furthermore, as I mentioned earlier, the LEAs conducting the search and seizure weren't searching for particular documents - they were just seizing stuff and walking away with it.
     
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