Justice Dept, Case against 12 Russians, Election Meddling

Trump and campaign staff not involved!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/justice-...accused-hacking-democrats-2016-192737647.html

Justice Department lays out its case against 12 Russian officers accused of hacking Democrats in 2016​

WASHINGTON — Starting in March 2016, Russian military intelligence hackers covertly targeted over 300 people affiliated with Hillary Clinton’s campaign and two other Democratic political organizations as part of a wide-ranging conspiracy to steal documents and emails and then release the material through cutouts in order to disrupt the American presidential election, according to a major new indictment brought by special counsel Robert Mueller that was released Friday.


The long-awaited, 29-page indictment revealed startling new details about Russia’s 2016 election efforts — including the leasing of U.S. based servers paid for with bitcoin — and fills out key gaps in the story of how top officials of one of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s premier intelligence services, known as the GRU, plotted to meddle in both U.S. congressional races and the presidential race.

The charges, unveiled at a press conference by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, comes at a diplomatically awkward time: on the eve of President Trump’s Monday summit with Putin in Helsinki. The indictment charges 12 GRU officers in the cyberattacks, including the chief of a hacking unit known as “Unit 26165” as well as “others known and unknown to the grand jury.”


But it conspicuously makes no mention of Putin, who U.S. intelligence officials in a January 2017 report concluded had “ordered” the Russian influence campaign that included the hacks on the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.


“There is no doubt that Vladimir Putin is the intellectual author of this,” said Steve Hall, a CIA former station chief in Moscow who later oversaw the agency’s Russian operations during President Barack Obama’s second term. “So remind me again who President Trump is sitting down with on Monday?” Wow, faith over proof!

Rosenstein said at the press conference that he had briefed Trump on the indictment before the president left for Europe earlier this week. But Hall said the detailed new criminal charges will increase the pressure on Trump to confront Putin over the issue in Helsinki. “What any good American president would do is go in there and say to Putin, ‘OK, you are harboring 12 criminals. You can give them to me now — so I can fly them back on Air Force One — or do you want me to send a plane for them tomorrow.’” (The United States has no extradition treaty with Russia.)


Trump and his allies, however, can take solace in the fact that no members of the president’s campaign are accused of knowingly participating in the Russian hacking campaign. “There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime,” Rosenstein said at the press conference, although he quickly added that Mueller’s investigation “is ongoing.” Time to end it.

But the indictment documents show how a phony Russian online persona, Guccifer 2.0 — set up by the GRU to publicly dump stolen Democratic Party documents — communicated with a “person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald Trump.” This is an apparent reference to longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone.

Stone is not identified by name in the indictment but has acknowledged “innocuous” communications with Guccifer 2.0 that match the exact wording of the messages in the indictment: “thank u for writing back…did u find anyt[h] interesting in the docs I posted,” Guccifer 2.0 wrote the Trump adviser on Aug. 15, 2016. Three weeks later, on Sept. 9, 2016, Guccifer referred to a stolen Democratic Party document posted online and asked Stone, “‘what do u think of the info on the turnout model for the democrats entire presidential campaign.” He responded, “pretty standard.”


Perhaps the most significant new information in the indictment reveals how WikiLeaks, the so-called transparency website founded by Julian Assange, actively solicited the emails stolen from the DNC that were published on the eve of the Democratic Party convention in July 2016, causing major disruptions that led to the resignation of the party’s chair, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Despite Assange’s repeated denials, the emails came directly from the GRU through Guccifer 2.0, the indictment alleges, although it was unclear from the charges whether Assange was aware of Guccifer’s Russian military ties. Exposing DNC crimes is a bad thing?

According to the indictment, Guccifer 2.0 was one of two online personas set up by the GRU in the spring of 2016 (the other was called DCLeaks) for the express purpose of dumping hacked Democratic Party documents. Initially, Guccifer 2.0, who claimed to be a Romanian hacker, began releasing some of the material on WordPress. But on June 22, 2016, according to the indictment, a group identified as “Organization 1” — a clear reference to WikiLeaks — sent a private message to Guccifer 2.0 asking that it “send any new material [stolen from the DNC] here for us to review and it will have a much higher impact than what you are doing.”


Then, on July 6, 2016, WikiLeaks sent a follow-up message saying, “if you have anything Hillary related we want it in the next tweo [sic] days prefable [sic] because the DNC [the Democratic convention] is approaching and she will solidify Bernie supporters behind her after.” Guccifer 2.0 responded: “ok…I see.” WikiLeaks then explained, “we think trump has only a 25 % chance of winning against Hillary…so conflict between Bernie and Hillary is interesting.”

According to the indictment, the Russian military hackers posing as Guccifer 2.0 on July 14, 2016, sent WikiLeaks an encrypted attachment with instructions on how to access an online archive of stolen DNC documents. Four days later, WikiLeaks confirmed it had received “1Gb [gigabyte] or so of the archive” and would release the material “this week.” On July 22, WikiLeaks released 20,000 DNC emails, three days before the Democratic convention, but “did not disclose Guccifer 2.0’s role in providing them,” the indictment charges.


Barry Pollack, Assange’s U.S. lawyer, told Yahoo News: “As I read the indictment, WikiLeaks published truthful information, which is something news organizations do every day. The idea that a news organization would reach out to sources to get information does not strike me as surprising. Taken at face value, what WikiLeaks did doesn’t distinguish it from any other news organization.” He added that there is nothing in the indictment that suggests WikiLeaks was aware of Guccifer 2.0’s real identity. He also said he was unaware of any attempt by Mueller or his team to interview Assange.

The indictment also reveals how Guccifer 2.0 actively worked with journalists and in one case even an unnamed congressional candidate to distribute other emails that were stolen by the GRU hackers from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.


In one case, the indictment charges, in mid-August, 2016, Guccifer 2.0 received a request for stolen documents “from a candidate for the U.S. Congress” and then responded by sending the unnamed candidate opposition research material on the candidate’s opponent from DCCC files. A week later, Guccifer 2.0 sent 2.5 gigabytes of data stolen from the DCCC to a state lobbyist in Florida who ran a website for political news. The stolen data included donor records and personal identifying information for more than 2,000 Democratic donors.

Most of the charges are related to the GRU’s role in hacking and stealing documents from the DNC, the DCCC and the Clinton campaign. But the indictment also charges that in July 2016, one GRU official, identified as Anatoliy Sergeyevich Kovalev — an officer assigned to another cyberhacking unit known as “United 74455” — oversaw a plot to penetrate U.S. state boards of election sites and, in one instance, hacked one of those websites and stole information about 500,000 voters, including names, partial Social Security numbers and driver’s license numbers. (The indictment doesn’t name the state, but the details match the cyberattack on the Illinois Board of Elections.) As late as Oct. 28, Kovalev and other GRU officials targeted the websites of counties in Georgia, Iowa and Florida “to identify vulnerabilities.”


The indictment charges that the Russian military officers obtained the stolen emails through so-called “spearphishing” emails to hundreds of Democratic Party officials and consultants that closely resembled the addresses and messages of fellow Democrats or Google security alerts. And the indictment discloses for the first time that, in order to carry off their heists, GRU officials leased U.S. based computer servers in Arizona and Illinois and then paid for the leases as well as phony web registrations and other computer “infrastructure” through bitcoin to avoid detection by U.S. regulators — a form of money laundering, according to the indictment.
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Makes me wish there was a parallel investigation regarding
CIA and election meddling in foreign elections!


Moi

r > g

Russia's Polar Partner.
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
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Didn't Rosenstein say there was repeated contact with a member of Dirty Donald's campaign, whom he chose not to name???

 

Moi - There's as much proof in that, as in the Skripal poisonings, the Trump Dossier, etc., etc. So what else is new? With the Skripal's it was to hurt the World Cup, and with this it's to undermine to the American people the meeting between Putin and Trump - as well as to annoy Putin. Not that anything will come out of it anyway.

Those people disgust me. Assange is the only one who knows the truth (it was Seth Rich and they killed him), so they discredited Assange. Can't those people put their minds on anything productive? Everything is so satanic! Instead of holding real criminals accountable for the crimes they commit, they excuse them, and invent crimes where none exists for its propaganda benefits, and for political expediency.

 

The indictment implies Roger Stone, but doesn't name him.
Stone doesn't deny some chit chat, but claims he didn't know they were Russians.
I think he wasn't officially on the campaign at that time.

 

nonsense.

Seth Rich did not hack the DNC, it was Guccifer 2.0 as the evidence clearly shows.

 

LOLOLOL!!!!

too funny.

 

Dear Jeannette DEAR

Truly, I do not care if the Russians did what "they" say Russians did.
I can only wonder how much more has done in other's elections.

Goose and Gander Rule.


Toi's Moi

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Out of context quote per Ronstar
@Jeannette said:
"Everything is so satanic!"

Maybe you, Ronstar are too young to remember the days
of civility and personal honor, now GWTW for personal profits.
I believe Jeanette et Moi remember them.

If you did remember them, than "Everything has turned so satanic" makes sense.
Today people would rather profit than protect their personal honor.
And will conduct themselves dishonorably accordingly
at a much more common occurrence than in the before time.
Corollary is the uber "don't judge others" that crept into culture making dishonorable behavior more individually tolerable.
If I had said it, I probably would have said, "Everything has turned so evil".
People are less likely to judge right from wrong, like the angel on the right shoulder and the demon on the left each whispering their advice in your ear and more and more choose the advice from the left ear.

Get it or not.
LOL to you too.
And a

 

They have no evidence, this is why they said they are indicted for their alleged interference in the 2016 US presidential election. It's pure anti Russia propaganda. If they had proof they wouldn't have to use the word allege to protect them from lawsuits. It's as stupid and as made up as the Trump dossier.

The Russian Foreign Ministry released a statement on Friday saying there is no evidence that the 12 people indicted by the office of US special counsel Robert Mueller are linked to Russian military intelligence.​

 

And it turns out Guccifer 2.0 was a front for the Russian Intelligence Agency GRU.

 

Mueller came out with this right before Trump meets with Putin which is yet more evidence this entire sham investigation is pure political theater

 

To put things into perspective you need to understand that no Americans were involved in the actions covered by THESE INDICTMENTS. It doesn't say any Americans were not involved in all activities. I don't think there is any "collusion" but not because of this announcement.

 

The DNC was not hacked. The material in question was LEAKED by somebody on the inside of the organization, probably Seth Rich.

Leaking and hacking are not the same thing.

 

If the information was leaked and not hacked.
Please explain why so many Russians were contacting Trump people about giving them dirt on Hillary?

 

Haha, right....yes, they managed to overnight assess the evidence and write an indictment, just to create political theater. Because, as everyone knows, until these indictments, nobody thought Putin had any hand in any of this.... Come on.

 

And yet our entire intelligence community says it was. Let me guess: they are lying, just to mess with you.

 

HaHa, right...the timing of this is just coincidence

 

Of course it is. It's not the first indictment of Russians. Probably won't be the last.

 

Goose and gander rule?

You excuse a MILITARY ATTACK on you nation with that fallacious piece of un american bullshit?

Come on.

There may or may not be Americans indicted in the next round. Given the level of detail and completeness of these indictments, it seems there very well will be.

At the very BEST for trump and his followers is that the Trump campaign were unwitting dupes in all of those 70 meetings between trump campaign members, trump associates and Russian operatives and criminals, that they have repeatedly lied about.

At the very WORST, it will be that trump is a traitor who was caught live on tape asking the russians to hack hillary on the day that they hacked the DNC. Sorta the public Okee dokee to putin to go ahead with the plan. Now I ain't saying that is what happened, just that it sure is a curious coinkadkink.

 

Goose and Gander Rule
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

And it was invoked to remind all those on Board
of the foreign elections meddling has been involved.
And then there are the governments brings down
when the results of a foreign election are so very unappreciated
as Ukraine and their putsch, Egypt, in progress on Venezuela, etc. + + .

So to put it in perspective,
I really do not care about Russian activity in the Hillary/Trump election
as long as worse activity is perpetuated by .

Goose and Gander Rule
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Moi
Russky activities were not Pro Trump
but, rather Anti-Hillary. Just like my vote

Now more than ever​

 

I've never been to Russia, and I don't speak the language. How in the hell am I supposed to answer that absurd question. You reek of desperation.

 

You offer a false statement.

In fact VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity), including Ellsberg and Binney, sent POTUS a letter last year pointing out the obvious--it was leaked not hacked.

If you're talking about John Brennan and Michael Hayden and other compromised individuals, so what? They are part of the corrupt and smelly belly of the beast in Washington DC. They are well known liars, even in front of Congress. Why should I believe them? Why DO you believe them?

 

Yep.

 

Or an attempt to force Trump to deal honestly with Russia.

 

Is that his job? I thought he was just an investigator not a policy maker and political strategist.