Justice Dept. IG report released on FBI's `Insubordinate' in Clinton Probe, Inspector General Finds

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Yes I figured you could not rebut the facts and would have to resort to juvenile invective instead.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh it's just started, now the Russia IG report will come out and we already have Strzok in this report clearly stating there was no there there in the Russia probe and wanted out of it because there was nothing there. Yet instead of treating it like kid gloves as they did with the Clinton investigating trying to make sure it would not result in an indictment that might screw up her election, they went full bore on Trump.

    LOTS of esplain' let to do.
     
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    The Trump cultists have made it clear they will only accept the result they want and none other. Credability zero.
     
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    This sounds familiar lol. Why not put focus on real crimes that have actual evidence and traction like the Trump children grifting and illegally using charity money.
     
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    Nah...he/she is 100% spot on...instead of bending over and just taking it up the wazoo like SHEEP...the people should be marching on Washington because no one should be above the law. I mean Peter Strzok hasn't even been fired! Talk about a slap in the face of justice and the American people!

    We should be DEMANDING a second special council be enacted to indict all these criminals that goes all the way up the chain of command to and including Obama and Hillary.
     
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    While I agree with you, it sounds really funny doesn't it? But that is LITERALLY exactly how we have all felt about the Russia nonsense.

    The Right and those in the Middle have been so sick and tired of it, I actually remember talking to someone and saying "The worst part about it, is the precedence it is going to set. We are going to have Republicans wanting to do it back to the Dems out of pure payback."

    Well, here we go. God I hate these stupid investigations, would love to see how much money has been spent on the Russia one so far in total man hours and expenditures.
     
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    Yep, sure.
    The DOJ is going to over rule their OIG and investigate who?
     
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    If trump is cleared in the Russia investigation I won’t be calling for a new one, or an investigation of the investigators.
     
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    Great post and 100% agree with EVERY WORD. I feel your pain and I'm totally livid as well. Although I'd hoped Horowitz would do the right thing, I really didn' t expect him to. I knew it was going to be more hand slaps and nothing more. The government has now proven themselves to be nothing but crime syndicate thugs...If the people don' t rise up and challenge what's going on, this country is gone the same as what's happening in Venezuela.

    No matter what side of the aisle someone is on...they should NOT accept government being allowed to get away with crimes committed out in the open in front of everyone's faces which sends a clear message going forward, they can do anything and the people will do NOTHING about it.
     
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    The people should DEMAND the DOJ appoint a second special council but NOT a bunch of Hillary campaign donors like Mueller did who cared nothing about revealing corruption on the left...only going after the right. Anything less will make most of the US lose complete trust in the system...instead of seeing just football teams taking a knee...figure on seeing half the nation doing that or turning their backs to the flag because it no longer means;
    *AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!*
     
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    IG Report: FILTHY CORRUPT FBI Agents Found Huma Abedin Deleting Classified/Hillary Emails From Yahoo Account But Failed to Subpoena Her Devices
     
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    “We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative actions we reviewed,”
     
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    They don't have much else:

    Why hasn’t Peter Strzok been fired yet?

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    Tick tock!
     
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    The crazy reason the FBI didn’t search the devices of Hillary Clinton’s inner circle.

    The agents’ primary excuse was to point to “the culture of mishandling classified information at the State Department which made the quantity of potential sources of evidence particularly vast” (see page 153).

    Put another way, the agents thought that they might find so much classified information on unauthorized servers and systems that they would become lost in the maze. Horowitz, in what can only be described as a generous admonition, counters by noting “that [this excuse] fails to acknowledge that the team was not required to take an all-or-nothing approach. For example, a middle ground existed where those devices belonging to Clinton’s three top aides – which the team determined accounted for approximately 68 percent of Clinton’s email exchanges – would have been reviewed, but devices belonging to other State Department employees would not.”

    This suggestion by Horowitz seems rather, well, obvious.

    From my perspective, by failing to investigate material held on the personal devices belonging to Clinton’s senior leadership team and senior aides, the FBI failed in their duty to fully pursue realistic and feasible avenues of profitable investigation.

    The only thing they failed to do was drag drunk Crooked Hillary over the finish line.
     
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    Well, so much for jail time lol. A year of blogger bait. yikes.

    Meanwhile, sup Manafort.
     
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    Damn you're misinformed, I mean just ...damn.

    Comey never had any ability to lay charges, he makes reports.

    In this case the report would have gone to AG Lynch (ya know the same gal who met on the tarmac with the husband of the "investigations" primary target) and the AG would have decided to file a complaint in court aka "file charges".

    And would you care to explain what you mean by "we know that no bias was interfered with the investigatiln"?

    Because that IG report demonstrated that a consistent degree of anti-Trump bias was present in the FBI/DOJ players.

    So much in fact that Horowitz had to get right back to work investigating these people and now we wait for report 2.0.
     
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    “We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative actions we reviewed,”
     
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    "During the course of the review, the OIG discovered text messages and instant messages between some FBI employees on the investigative team, conducted using FBI mobile devices and computers, that expressed statements of hostility toward then candidate Donald Trump and statements of support for then candidate Clinton.

    We were deeply troubled by text messages exchanged between Strzok and Page that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations."
     
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    So then you agree there should be an investigation against Clinton then?

    That way we can make sure that Hillary is "cleared" in the same way Trump is, you want to be fair correct?

    Or in your opinion is it "he is the President, Hillary doesn't matter"?

    Honestly curious
     
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    Appearance, but no evidence
     
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    Which is why they're moving to phase 2.
     
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    Well you can't prove their ultimate action was based on that but when see how persistent and pervasive and deeply held to try and believe it did not have any effect is folly.

    You didn't really expect them to admit it in their IG interviews and remember the IG authority is only limited to those still employed.

    Lets empanel a grand jury with subpoena power.
     
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    And then if that doesn’t work we’ll investigate the grand jury lol
     
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    Grand Juries are next:

    Amazing

    Eric Felten.

    Agent 1 was one of the key players in the investigation--one of just four "case agents" on the probe--and he not only expressed his political support for Clinton, he advocated against subjecting Hillary to an FBI interview....

    Just in case his girlfriend didn’t savvy the full extent of his disgruntlement at the prospect of interviewing Hillary Clinton, Agent 1 added "My god ...I'm actually starting to have embarrassment sprinkled on my disappointment. ....Ever been forced to do something you adamantly opposed."

    Asked by the IG about these comments, Agent 1 insisted he hadn’t meant his message: "I don't want to make it sound like there was no reason to interview her." As for explaining his "adamantly oppose"” comments, Agent 1's memory seemed to give out.

    There are reasons to think that Agent 1 was dissatisfied because the organization was phoning in a politically determined investigation. But there are also reasons to think his unhappiness flowed from an admiration for Hillary. Take his message to Agent 5 after completing the questioning of Clinton: "done interviewing the President."

    And then there’s this heartfelt string of missives from Agent 1 to Agent 5 on November 8, 2016--election day: "You should know; ...that I'm ...with her.” (The IG helpfully adds in a footnote that "I'm with her" was one of the Clinton campaign slogans.”)

    Here are some of the highlights of Agent 1's comments about his work on the “Midyear” investigation as the Clinton case was code-named:

    ">.. the most meaningless thing I've ever done with people acting like f---ing 9/11.”

    "… I dont care about it. I think its continued waste of resources and time and focus..."

    "Its just so obvious how pointless this exercise is ..."

    Put on the spot by the IG, Agent 1 explained his indiscreet comments as just being the nature of using instant messaging. He succumbed to a "water cooler" style of "jocularity" because he thought IMs "were not retained by the FBI and therefore used less caution with those communications than he would have with other types of communications."

    Agent 5 sent an instant message to Agent 1 on February 9, 2016, griping about the Midyear work she was being given to do. Agent 1 messaged back to commiserate: "Yeah, I hear you. You guys have a shitty task, in a shitty environment," he wrote. "To look for something conjured in a place where you cant find it, for a case that doesnt matter and is predestined." It's bad enough that a lead agent on the Clinton case was convinced the outcome was "predestined," but there’s more in Agent 1's description of the culture they were operating in: "DOJ comes in there every once in awhile and takes a wishy-washy, political, cowardice stance. Salt meets wound. That is the environment love. Can't sugar coat it.” At least he followed by telling his girlfriend to “do the best you can."

    That sounds like a frank and honest description of a politically skewed shop. But when asked about that message, Agent 1 had another message altogether for the IG: "I have no information that [the Clinton investigation] was a pre-determined outcome by anyone." No, of course not.

    And don't forget Agent 1 and Agent 5's other work:​

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    From IG report: Agent discusses interview with a witness who assisted the Clintons at their Chappaqua residence:

    FBI Employee: "how did the [witness] go”

    Agent: “Awesome. Lied his ass off."

    Agent: "Even if he said the truth ... aint noone gonna do ****”

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    Has anyone on the left, you know Clinton supporters, found any pro-Trump, anti-Hillary messages yet?
     
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