Justice Kagan warns parts of East Coast could be 'swallowed by the ocean' in dissent in EPA case

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  1. Moolk

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    Hi Torus34,

    The word claim was implied in your post as other than taking someone’s word at face value, it’s impossible to know their political affiliation.

    You may stand by your incorrect comment if you would like.

    Regards, enjoy your weekend.
     
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    Fear is a powerful tool... and liberals are easy targets. They want simple solutions to simple stories.

    The fantasy that government can fix every problem, real or imagined, always makes sense to them.

    The CO2 boogeyman is the perfect vehicle to give authoritarians complete control over our lives.

    It's sad that people can't see through the lies and propaganda.
     
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    I still can't get a leftist to explain why the ice age happened and ended...
     
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    This is a Sotomayor caliber argument.
     
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    I wouldn't hold my breath. She is a liberal darling and thus, has full support of the Democrat media
     
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    Florida once had more land, and then was mostly underwater, and now it's not

    And that was way before man stepped foot on the planet.
     
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    Whether or not, your suggestion would be the rational response, or even a rational response (if your somewhat misleading phrasing was intentional), would depend on one's definition of rational, in this instance. If, for example, one's idea of the rational path, was to prioritize the avoidance of interpersonal conflict-- and so, therefore, to avoid making any remark, at which another might be, at all, inclined to take umbrage-- then your statement is correct. If, however, your prescription were meant to be taken as the way it straightforwardly appears, then you are probably incorrect. This would depend upon the speaker's attitude toward generalizations, and comfort with making statements, of groups, which are only relatively true, of the all of the members of each group, seen on the whole. An example of such a statement, would be most basic discriminations between the genders, to wit: men are physically stronger than women; women are more emotionally sensitive (or at least more demonstrative of this quality), than men; men's minds are better at math and physical abstractions, than women's minds; women have greater verbal acumen, than men; and so forth.

    But if one had no problem with the above statements, there are certainly things that could be said about the MAGA "crowd," that would be proportionately more true of their number, than of the general public, at large, or of any other, non-MAGA (or anti-MAGA) group, except perhaps groups which largely overlap, such as, "Republicans." Three quarters of Republicans, for instance, feel sympathetic towards the Capitol rioters, of January sixth. This is definitely a significantly higher percentage than of, say, Democrats, or Independents, though the subcategory of MAGA enthusiasts (shall we say?), would even exceed the somewhat less specific group, called "Republicans."

    Among other categories in which the MAGA demographic would stand apart, would be in its lower percentage of folks with college diplomas-- which I say without any attached judgment, for I am without this paper, myself-- or in their attitudes about racism (much more likely to believe it does not exist, or that its degree is surpassed by the amount of racism, directed against whites), for just one other example.

    I hope you found that helpful.



    BTW, which "Big 5," are you so keen about, regularly, promoting?
     
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    Hi, DEFinning.

    My post served its purpose! Thank you for reading it and thinking about what it said. Too many posters are willing to assign all manner of characteristics to this or that group depending upon little more than prejudice*.

    The Big 5 are the steps all of us can take to help control the spread of airborne infectious viral and bacterial diseases. They've been around for over two centuries and are as valid today as when they were first employed. They are:

    1. Wash hands frequently.
    2. Wear a mask in public places.
    3. Maintain physical distance in public places.
    4. Get vaccinated when one is available.
    5. Update information on the disease from reputable sources.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.

    * Prejudice is used in the sense of pre-judging.
     
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    Jesus Christ. Did Kagan ride the short bus to school and wear a bicycle helmet to class?
     
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    it doesn't matter as she will be heralded as a shining beacon of truth by NPR et al
     
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    So it would appear that fluctuations in weather patterns have happened for millennia and would continue to happen if we interpret this post correctly. And I think you're onto a 'revolutionary' breakthrough! :D In all seriousness, the global warming/climate change nonsense has been debunked for quite a while now as scientific hogwash that has no basis in actual scientific research or analysis.
     
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    I read these arguments but notice something. So many people are arguing over the cause of climate change, but it's scientifically a fact. People in the southwest US are seeing it firsthand. Cleveland used to have some bitter cold months, but the winters are noticeably warmer year after year. So, if we know what's happening, and we can't agree on the cause (I think it's a natural cycle exacerbated by humans), then why is no one talking about how we are going to deal with the effects. Like water in the southwest, lands at the coast that are slowly going underwater. If the polar ice caps melt, most of Florida will be under water.
    I would like to see civil engineers and scientists dealing with solutions for the problems that are coming instead of politicians arguing about whose to blame, getting nothing accomplished.
    Just my opinon.
     
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    And in FL this spring, it was much cooler than last year. The climate has been cyclical for eons. As I have posted before, FL used to have a lot more land, then it was underwater 2.5 to 4.5 million years ago, and now it's not.

    The earth will cool, the earth will warm. It's done that for millions of years. The climate is ALWAYS changing.

    The climate will continue to change long after man no longer walks the planet. Wait, is anyone so arrogant as to think that we will be the final species on earth?
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    Where you will get push-back is from folks who realize that giving money and power to politicians and their hacks will do nothing to stop the natural cycles.

    Are you on the side that thinks giving money to hacks will stop the cycles?
     
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    She and the other Leftists on the court promised to promote the communist agenda. That's how they got their nominations.
     
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    The solutions are well known to those with background in plant sciences.

    Nobody wants to solve anything. There is nothing to be gained by politicians in solving anything.
     
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    Do you believe gender has nothing to do with chromosomes?
     
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    I'm not sure if you read my post carefully, but no, I don't think the cycles will stop, I think we need to be prepared for it NOT to stop.
     
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    We need to leverage the changes to our advantage.
     
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    yup. If the northern passage opens, then that is good for shipping

    In FL, they have had to move the citrus crop further south due to freeze (yes you read that correctly). If we really do warm, then maybe central locations can again grow citrus.
     
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    people won't change, what will happen is that it will eventually get bad enough that science tries to "fix" it

    and then all those that claimed man can't affect climate will whine that they will affect the climate negatively
     
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    I find it fascinating progressives always want change—until it’s climate. A growing global population needs more carbon and fresh water working to support that population. We don’t have too much atmospheric carbon really, what our problem is we have too little carbon in terrestrial ecosystems. That’s easily remedied, but there is no interest in doing so.

    Change isn’t necessarily bad, but the bad is all that gets reported for one reason or another.
     
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    Some of us are already using science to “fix” it. But there are not enough of us yet that care to actually do concrete things that work.
     
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