Kamala Harris drops out of presidential race

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  1. HumbledPi

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    Kamala Harris drops out of presidential race
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472820-kamala-harris-drops-out-of-presidential-race-reports


    Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) suspended her bid for the Democratic presidential nomination on Tuesday, the nadir of a months-long slump for a once-rising star who was never able to turn her political talents into a sustained movement.


    Harris entered the race as a front-running candidate, gifted with a compelling backstory, a commanding stage presence and a donor base in the largest and wealthiest state in the nation, launching her campaign with a show-of-force rally that drew tens of thousands to her hometown of Oakland. But 11 months later, Harris told supporters that she was no longer financially capable of running a strong campaign.

    “I’ve taken stock and looked at this from every angle, and over the last few days have come to one of the hardest decisions of my life. My campaign for president simply doesn’t have the financial resources we need to continue,” Harris wrote. “I’m not a billionaire. I can’t fund my own campaign. And as the campaign has gone on, it’s become harder and harder to raise the money we need to compete.”
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    It's just a sad fact that without the backing of millionaires, nobody can be elected president of the U.S.
     
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    The DP nomination process is rigged.
    Harris had to know that when she entered the race.
     
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    Yeah, we do seem to be tending toward plutocracy of a sort as the wealthy hold so much of the national wealth that they are the biggest deciders and also the most capable of campaigning themselves.

    On the other hand, in this instance, it seems Ms. Harris just wasn't popular enough in the expansive field of Democratic hopefuls to stay in the running any longer. There are a lot of ways for Democratic donors to split their money right now, making it difficult for probably all of the candidates, Bloomberg aside.
     
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    Thanks for providing us with the conspiracy theorist perspective.
     
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    Personally, her 'Medicare for all' was too far to the left even for me, same with Warren and Sanders. I actually like Mike Bloomberg a lot and spent a lot of time on his Facebook in 2015 begging him to enter the race then. Now it looks like we're going to have a bunch of septuagenarians duking it out for the presidency.
     
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    You are confusing documented facts with theory.

    “Before I called Bernie Sanders, I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.

    I had promised Bernie when I took the helm of the Democratic National Committee after the convention that I would get to the bottom of whether Hillary Clinton’s team had ***rigged*** the nomination process, as a cache of emails stolen by Russian hackers and posted online had suggested. I’d had my suspicions…”

    POLITICO, Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC, When I was asked to run the Democratic Party after the Russians hacked our emails, I stumbled onto a shocking truth about the Clinton campaign., By DONNA BRAZILE November 02, 2017. (*** mine)
    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
     
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    Bloomberg v Trump would make for an interesting contest. Perhaps as interesting as Sanders v Trump, the contest I really wanted to see in the last presidential race.
     
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    It would be an interesting contest, but do you think the US would accept such a Progressive candidate? To a outsider, the US seems to be conservative.
     
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    Bloomberg is cut from the same cloth as the radical left. He is all for authoritarian control and has shown his stripes too often.
     
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    It wasn't her lack of money that doomed her candidacy, it was her lack of appeal.
     
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    An interesting and informative piece. None of what it describes applies to the DNC today, though. I see nothing there to back your simple assertion that the process is somehow rigged, presumably against Harris.
     
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    Of course, of course.
     
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    It's hard to say. We've got these two extremes with decreasingly little room between them, it seems. The extremes aren't much happier with a centrist than a radical at the helm, and they're constantly being stoked and riled up by disinformation..
     
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    Bloomberg is more centrist for my taste. I was a Bernie supporter in 2015 but since then realize that his 'medicare for all' and 'free college' are nothing more than dreams that could never reach a vote in the Senate nor could it be funded to be effective.
     
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    Not at all, Kamala Harris had a very big head start and that's a bad sign, or at least it has been a bad sign for those candidates in recent years that come out strong and finish last. Her downfall was her stance on Medicare for all. Her campaign just peaked too quickly and ran out of steam and money. She most definitely had the black vote, but that would have been split with Biden or Bernie anyway.
     
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    DP election rigging has been exposed. Harris had no reason to assume that she had a chance unless she thought the DNC had selected her.
     
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    His ideas don't have to be perfectly realized, though. Good politicians make deals and compromises to get something good. Bernie might get us something like Medicare for all and free college that would work. There is a lot of room for negotiation when it comes to these major issues. Campaign rhetoric only means so much and only goes so far once a candidate is elected. In our system, they must compromise. In fact, we can't afford to have radicals taking over for 4-8 years at a time and wreaking havoc with our institutions. We need partisan consensus to arrive at practical results that work for a majority of Americans, and Bernie certainly understands this. Bernie isn't the kind of guy to do what Trump has been doing but leftward instead of rightward.
     
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    There was nothing memorable about her candidacy anyway, other than getting spanked nice and good in front of all of her friends by Tulsi Gabbard.
     
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    Someone like Mike Bloomberg knows that 'Medicare for all' and 'free college' are unreasonably ambitious. These are programs that would take possibly years to negotiate. Where is the money going to come from to pay for Medicare for all or free college? Whose going to pay for that when the taxes collected from working Americans can't even pay to fix our dilapidated roads and bridges or clean up the drinking water for millions of people? The rich got a healthy tax cut and that missing revenue is putting us deeper and deeper in the hole. It's not an avenue to where we'll be able to afford such extravagant programs.

    You go tell people that they will need to pay more income tax, you go tell the wealthy people that they have to pay more income tax on more than just profits on what they sell, and you'll find a bunch of rich people making certain that candidate does not win the presidency.
     
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    If we can prove it was rigged then, then it's easy to believe it's rigged now. It might not be, but why would the DNC change now?

    You're right about Harris though. I don't think anything was rigged against her. She's just an unlikable POS.
     
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    Read the article to find out how it was "rigged".
     
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    I do like how she replied to Trump's utterly graceless and sarcastic tweet. ""Goodbye Kamala, we'll miss you"" with "Don't worry Mr. President. We'll see you at your trial" :roflol: i'd have voted for her on that alone.
     
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    There's more than enough money to pay for all those things. We need to stop paying more for defense than the next 26 biggest defense spenders (25 of whom are allies) in the world combined. And our present healthcare costs us more than twice as much than the any other nation; we would SAVE money on Medicare for All.

    Joe Biden won't just talk about those things, he will get them through
     
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    OUTRAGE Inc. is now screeching about the lack of diversity in clown car.

    Who are they yelling at? Drumpf? The RethugliKKKans? The Illinois Nazis?

    THIS IS YOUR CIRCUS! You picked the clowns, and it's you deciding who gets to get up and juggle the bowling pins. It's nobody's fault but your own when bodies come tumbling out of the tent.
     
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