Kelly to Resign Soon??

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  1. MiaBleu

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    Well he was no good anyway. Tried to control Trump's natural instincts.
    Some young yes man will be much better.
    Lock him up with Tillerson. Then you would have a bag of rocks.
     
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    Another adult abandoning the nursery .
     
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    Kelly has got to be loving this Xmas gift.

    I doubt he will be replaced and likely no one would do it anyway.
     
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    Not sure that any SANE person would want the job.

    ANd if yes men are all that Trump wants......... he might as well admit to be running a dictatorship. ( or the mafia )

    His style is NOT democratic .....and most people see that. The founding fathers would be in shock if they were able to observe what is being passed as "leadership" in the country they built with good reason, logic, fairness, legality, and love.

    Did anyone actually ask Trump WHY he ran for the job?? What was his REAL motive?? He seems against everything the constitution stands for. Th e law is for others......not him. He can't even articulate his thoughts without being crass. Ethics and standards are for others.

    Without others to set some controls..........or try to......he would go rogue faster than a NY minute. He has no boundaries.....or self discipline. He is a psychologies / psychiatrists dram patient. Even the under educated can see that he has issues. At the very least he is a sadistic con man.( yes.....SADISTIC.........as he has a very cruel streak in him)
     
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    He leaves like the many that preceded him in leaving the trump dynasty - more tarnished than when he first came in. Any one that would work for trump is suicidal.
     
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    You nailed it..
     
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    https://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/12/08/why-frequent-firings-are-a-sign-of-a-good-president/

    And the list could go on with high profile advisors like Steve Bannon, Sebastian Gorka, Hope Hicks, and Rob Porter.

    At first glance, this might suggest that the Trump White House is in chaos.

    Former President Richard Nixon, however, would probably disagree. In his 1982 book Leaders, Nixon quotes British Prime Minister William Gladstone as saying that the first prerequisite for a Prime Minister is to be a good butcher. Nixon bluntly argues that American presidents must follow Gladstone’s advice.

    “A leader’s most precious resource is his time. If he squanders it on the nonessentials, he will fail. Among his most important choices are those in which he selects what he will do himself and what he will leave to others. The leader has to be able to get good people, and also to get rid of those who for whatever reason do not work out. Firing people can be one of the most difficult tasks a leader faces but also one of the most essential. The easy cases are those where the subordinate is venal or disloyal. The tougher ones are those in which he is loyal, dedicated, but incompetent. That is when the leader has to steel himself to put public responsibility ahead of personal feelings.”


    Some Presidents, like Ronald Reagan, hated being a “good butcher.” Nixon explained how to navigate this problem:

    “If he cannot be a good butcher himself, then he needs someone who can be. General Walter Bedell Smith once broke into tears as he told me: ‘I was just Ike’s pratboy. Ike always had to have a pratboy.’ In my own administration Bob Haldeman got a reputation for ruthlessness. One reason was that he performed for me a lot of the butcher’s tasks that I could not bring myself to perform directly.”

    President Trump doesn’t seem to have any problem firing people. He doesn’t need a Haldeman or a “pratboy.” But he may need to turn his butcher’s cleaver in another direction: the federal bureaucracy.

    When Richard Nixon took office in 1969, he faced the hostility of the permanent government in Washington. Trump has exactly the same enemy. Nixon advises the following:

    “Especially where a huge bureaucracy is involved, the butcher’s function is vital for another reason. I have found that, generally, few people in the bureaucracy are motivated by devotion to the leader, and some by devotion to the cause he represents. But most are motivated primarily by self-interest. Some want advancement – to move up the ladder competitively. Some want security – to keep the jobs that they have. The worst thing that an organization can do is provide too much security. The people grow lax, and the organization grows ineffective. Positive incentives are needed to maintain morale. But an occasional firing for evident good reason, will shake up the troops and provide a tonic that every organization needs.”

    Rapid turnover at the White House can easily be mistaken for incompetence or bewilderment, but that is not always the case. The first two years of the Clinton administration could be charitably called chaotic. Lots of people came and went. George W. Bush, on the other hand, was the very picture of focus and discipline. Which of these two presidents had the more successful eight years in office?
     
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    Was Bill Clinton a dictator? Lots of firing under him.
     
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    Abraham Lincoln had the same problem when he declared war on states. And ended up dying for his cause.
     
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    The OP cannot possible be right. After all, this is what Fox reported a couple of months ago. This fake news is so confusing, yes?

     
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    Kelly sees that this administration is getting ready to crash and burn.

    It's funny how Trump supporters keep thinking these indictments are good for Trump because he is not specifically named. Yeah guys, Trump is in no trouble even though many of his closest people are facing time and are flipping as we speak. Trump is in some heavy ****. This gonna be good.

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    Not even close snowflake. Check your sources.
     
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    Well. it just goes to show how mercurial Trump is. One day ......a staffer is a good guy .......and in no time a tall......same staffer is shamed , fired or ??? And its anyone's guess as to what triggered the rage. For the most part...Kelly is departing relatively unscathed. bet he regrets ever getting involved with this. One hardly knows him..........due to the over bearing persona of Individual one.
     
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    Here we go yet again with the 'what about ????' obsession. Fair dinkum, don't you people ever move on to what is current or are you always going through rubbish dumps to read old fish 'n chip wrappings?
     
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    It's not "whataboutism", that's when you do an apples to oranges comparasin. This is about two Presidents doing the same thing and the hypocrisy it takes to only have an issue with one.

    Most people could understand it, unless they are a partisan and blind.
     

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