Kosovo Forces Seize Serbian Village - War Brews As Serbian Army Mobilizes

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    You live in Kansas and wouldn't know.
     
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    Old wounds don't heal very quickly.....

    Looks like these wounds reopened.
     
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    The USA has done nothing to cause it so we need to stay out of it.
     
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    We should stay out of it but our current government won't and concerning the old conflict of the 1990's the United States fingerprints were all over that.
     
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    Last time when they fought which party supported the Muslims, the Democrats or the Republicans?
     
  6. Tim15856

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    Rome was post modern? But OK, no need to argue the point. :)

    Are you a Brit in Bulgaria?
     
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    If you omit your, sorry, idiotic propaganda bullcrap as far as looking back at the Kosovo war ... your totally twisted and crazy view of it is well known ... then the whole thing is a KFOR task to solve it and prevent it.

    KFOR fails here, then KFOR is also to criticize!

    And as for the whole conflict itself ... you know that the majority in Kosovo are Albanians and the Serbs are an even smaller minority of the total population than the Russians in Ukraine?
    It's interesting that you ignore these pseudo-fascist Serbs and all their atrocities or declare them to be lying and denounce the secession of Kosovo as illegal ... but in the Ukraine conflict it suddenly seems quite normal when the Russian minority does.
     
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    Before Christ, the Roman Empire was just in their first steps. I believe the Roman Empire was at its greatest extent during the last years of the reign of Trajan (emperor A.D. 98-117).

    No sir. A Bulgarian-Italian-Macedonian currently in Bulgaria. I lived in Italy for a bit but I like Bulgaria. And you? Cheers.
     
  9. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about some reality?

    In Kosovo, the Muslim Albanians came into Yugoslavia under Tito because life was better. If you think they have a right to take Serbian land, then the Muslims in Germany should have the same right to take German land in areas where they are a majority. You can't have one set of rules for one nation, and another set of rules for another nation.

    As for Ukraine, the Eastern and Southern half were always part of Russia. If the Russians weren't a majority, Yanukovich would not have been voted in as President.

    The Western area of Gallicia was part of Poland, this is why they hate the Russian half of their country. With the help of Washington and Germany they had a coup and chased away the elected President Yanukovich as well as the elected officials who represented the Russian part of the country.

    Crimea refused to accept an illegal fascist government in Kiev without representation, as did Donetsk and Lugansk. While Moscow accepted the Crimean referendum to join the Russian Federation, Yanukovich told the people in Donbas not to vote for independence, but to federalize to get more rights. When they did vote to federalize, Poroshenko instead of speaking to them, began killing them.

    Get on to 1:20 and watch Porosheno's response to the referendum.


     
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    You want something more reality? With pleasure...

    Kosovo has been a Muslim sub-district for centuries and since then has been inhabited by the Albanian ethnic group!
    After the Serbs in the Medieval (Battle of the Blackbird field) have received terrible beatings against the Ottomans, the area was for a long time partly Ottoman Empire and the other part Serbian ... also in terms of the population share.
    So your assertion of only under Tito etc. is just crap and nonsense!
    And the fact is, too, that your Tito gave the Albanians more autonomy step by step, but the bastard Milosevic not only made everything back, but also suppressed the Albanian population!

    And as for your idiotic omissions about Ukraine, so many times I have refuted you as far as your Russian propaganda claims, that I have no desire to repeat myself.
    But if you just rely on Sputnik and Voltaire.net and the Russian media, you're just left and believe the biggest bullshit!
    Apart from that, I have always said that I have no problems with the annexation of the Crimea!
    What I have a problem with is your distortion of facts!
    On the Ukrainian side also Nazis fight? Yes ... but so what? On the Russian side they do it demonstrably, but that ignores and denies of course!
     
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    OK, I thought just Brits and Aussies used 'mate'. Me, just your typical red blooded American. :)
     
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    You got me, Yankee. I surrender!



    I like "mate". Bro and pal are so outdated. In my greatly lovable Bulgarian language it's getting QUITE boring too. I'm borrowing redneck words from the Balkan Mountains from some time now. Just to switch things a bit. I'm a writer also, so... You've captured me, Tim!
     
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    Your English is outstanding!
     
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    Well thank you sir.
    Much obliged!!

    I wish you, or I, could say the same for my Italian, German or Russian. It'll be a shame to say but I've abandoned them all for the sake of my Americano-Australiano lingo. Sorry, Eurofellas. I've switched my sides and I'm gone now.
     
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    First of all, the majority of the people under the Ottomans were Christian - and that includes Serbian Kosovo. It wasn't until Greece gained its independence that the Turks became frightened, and began to ethnically cleanse the Christians in Anatolia and parts of the Balkans.

    What you're telling me is that it's okay for the KLA Albanian terrorists to kill Serbs to get them to move away, but it was not okay for Pres. Miloshevic to send in troops to protect them? I hope you feel the same when it happens in Germany, because the day is coming. What goes around comes around.

    I gave you proof, and showed you a video of Poroshenko's response to the Donbas' referendum to federate, so how about a few videos of the Albanian terrorists and what they were doing in Kosovo after Nato bombed? Take a look at the ancient churches and monasteries, because according to your reasoning they should be mosques.

    By the way, a half a million Serbs and Romas were thrown into refugee camps - thanks to Nato. You can watch the Albanians cheer as they smash everything, tear down the Crosses and set fire to the buildings.

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    So what?
    You accuse as usual only the by the West supported side and put a halo on the enemies.

    Jeannette, learn history without checking only BS spources, but taking ALL SOURCES please ...
     
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    If you believe he's not an American and English is not his first and maybe his only language, then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn and it's quite cheap. Think of it, you can collect fares the rest of your life and be living on 'easy street'. (That's depression lingo).
     
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    Wow - This is one sided - completely lacks understanding of the region - and myopic. Are you Croatian or Albanian ? Either that or you have been drinking a whole lot of propaganda koolaid.

    The annexation of Kosovo was just that - annexation of territory from a sovereign nation. The atrocities being committed against the Serbian people living in Kosovo are well documented.

    The war in Yugoslavia got nasty - on both sides. NATO ended up bombing Hospitals, Schools, Churches and civilian populations in Serbia - war crimes. This of course does not justify war crimes committed by Serbia - nor does it justify war crimes committed by Croatia or the Muslim dominated regions.
     
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    You are the one that is one sided and does not know the history. Full Stop.
     
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    Illegal? What country are you from?

    Even serbia recognizes kosovo




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    The neocons and neoliberals in DC never fail to conjure up a pretext for US intervention. More than likely, the CIA is already intervening in some way. Probably the instability and conflict itself can be traced back to some sort of CIA scheming and backstabbing.

    Naturally, ordinary Americans probably have no idea this is even happening because it has no real impact on their daily lives. Most Americans are worried about things that are actually important to them, like their families and their jobs. That's why we dumb, unsophisticated rubes need the Ivy League aristocracy to get involved on our behalf, because us poor benighted Americans just don't know what's in our best interests.
     
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    I certainly hope not. But since when has reason or rationality ruled US foreign policy?

    I mean, after 9/11, I had no idea the US was going to invade Iraq and occupy it for the next fifteen years. And I certainly had no idea I'd be part of the occupation!

    So who can predict what the unhinged liars in DC will do next? If their paymasters on Wall Street tell them to make a war in some European backwater, then they will probably comply.
     
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    You are probably right Jeannette. :)
     
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    Aren't you aware that Trump's words mean nothing?
     
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    So when is "NATO" (the USA) going to step in and bomb the crap out of Saudi Arabia? I mean, if NATO is to be the world's morality police, then surely they should be doing something about Saudi Arabia's vile war in Yemen.
     

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