Kosovo Forces Seize Serbian Village - War Brews As Serbian Army Mobilizes

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Albania is a mafia state of the worst kind. Prior to that they were in league with the Nazi's and are no strangers to genocide.

    Your post is a load of nonsense.
     
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    Have you seen pictures of the Saudi King? Notice the gaudy decorations. Notice they are in the same style as tRump's, rich guy gaud.
     
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    In the constitution, it says something about treaties becoming, the law of the land.
     
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    Albanians, and especially Kosovars are some the worse criminal elements in Europe. Albania may be the most corrupt country in Europe. They are the ones most involved in smuggling heroin into Europe, and heavily involved in human trafficking. Albania, and most of Kosovo is not safe for non-Albanians. Their culturally embedded criminality is a bit like that of Sicily, which spawned the Mafia in the United States.
     
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    Your opinion means not much.
    Albania being aggressive to Serbia is like Israel being aggressive to Iran. Both are for the good of the mankind...
     
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    It must be nice to have a big mouth about things you don't know but I still have to ask for proof.
     
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    LOL and your opinion is sacrosanct. I am not the one that posted false nonsense and absurd Nazi analogies as if they had some basis in reality.

    That would be you.
     
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    Having Albanians on one's border, is a bit like having Mexican drug cartels on your border. In fact, if an American wants to know what the Albanian menace looks like; just imagine if a Mexican Drug cartel had taken over New Mexico and used it as a base for their operations. That is essentially what Albanians did in Kosovo.

    They staged a massacre, and blamed it on Serbs. Madwoman Allwrong, Clinton's Secretary of State, an Albanian, urged Clinton to join in on the Albanian side. Even though international investigators showed the massacre to be a Hoax, the US bombed Serbia, allowing the Albanians to drive most of the remaining Serbs out of Kosovo.

    After they secured Kosov, the Albanians tried to do the same thing in Macedonia. The US didn't back them and the Greeks sided with the Macedonians, eventually repealing the Albanian aggression.
     
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    Hey breathe you... The Butchers is a nickname used for Serbian generals. They were taking direct orders from the Deep Kremlin who after 2000s turned into some Russian NAZI deep state faction that is still running things in Moscow.
    However, since they had to deal with Yeltsin in Kremlin as well, they could not do much to help their Serbian affiliates beyond some conventional weapon shipments, and providing with terror strategies by sending few ex-Soviet psycho generals to the field to instruct.

    You know too well that nobody can compete Russia, China and Iran on implementing "state terrorism" because they invented it as their survival method.
    Look what they've been doing to Ukrainians, Tatars, Georgians, Chechnyans, Bosnians, Uighurs, Azeris, Persians, and Arabs... Oppressing, and mass-slaughtering...
    They are all genocidal dictatorships and they've got to go. Killing and oppressing minorities for "national security reasons" bring only pain and chaos.
    So you should stop supporting state terrorism upon those poor minorities and start working for a democratic secular world order under the rule of law, and not of the Siberian steps or fully militarized Russian arctic...
     
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    I couldn't have imagined nothing legitimately worse than a 16-1 defeat by Red Sox at Yankee stadium if I was a Yankee, but I'm just not.
    I'm Turkish Albanian and an ex-UCK trooper. I've seen a lot but didn't do no MS-13 stuff. That's heavy, couldn't have handled.
    Greater Albania will soon bring peace to Europe... Yes we can !

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    It is according to the law in the US.

    The US signed that they are bound by them.
     
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    Only American brothers, Albania also has Soros and it's Turkish brothers too - after all they are remnants of your former empire. As they say, birds of a feather flock together. How low we have fallen.

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    Of course the Albanians will go on a murdering rampage - of Christians of course, or at least the terrorists in their camps will, but peace? Dream on Goody!

    Anyway I know that Turkey had signed an accord with Albania to attack Greece when they go to war. Better watch the bear on top, before you all disappear from the map. He's not all song and dance you know?



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    I think you are right.
    I've actually figured that Christians are much safer at places where Russia's stuck its nose.
    Just take a look at Ukraine, Syria, and Europe... Anywhere Russia's got involved is almost immediately becoming a "jihad-free zone"...
    It's just so relieving to know Russia is watching over Christians like an angel from Siberian Amazons.
    Can't imagine what otherwise might have been like. Iran probably would have kept sponsoring terrorists at Israel's doors like hell...
    And only god knows how many more Wahhabi terrorists would have been sponsored by Saudis in the Middle East, had Russia not declined at the very second the request was made by the KSA for S-400 deals with Vlad the Impaler of Kremlin...
    He a good guy cuts no deals with jihadist terror states like that. Thanks lord we have him...
     
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    Your smooth Florida accent is so understandable that I didn't even have to read the rest of your post once I've spent an hour and eleven minutes on your first sentence.
    Why have you fallen that low? : (
     
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    Conflating Serbia with all the bad things that Russia has done throughout its sordid history is a really bad argument.

    You should take the log out of your own eye (State Sponsored Terrorism) before picking the speck out of your bothers. Turkey is a "State Sponsor of Terror" big time.
     
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    And you have to read that list and then fall into a lousy silence with your one-sided accusation ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Kosovo
     
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    What happened to your brain. Normally your posts are not like this. It was you that was completely one sided.. Not I. I pointed out examples that showed that things were not so simple.

    I have never said the Serbs were innocent - which is why I used terms like "blood feud".

    Your wiki list shows a bunch of attacks by the KLA killing Serbian civilians - which disproves your one sided position thus far.
     
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    Did I say that the KLA is innocent? No!
    But it is impudent to blame the NATO and the West that they throw out this Serbian Bastard Regime out of the Kosovo and to pack a halo on the Serbians to be victim of NATO and USA!

    I was involved in the Yugoslavian Civil War as a blue helmet and saw this all with my own eyes in Bosnia ... and I always told and tell that all sides were guilty for this slaughtering!

    But ... the beginning was done by the Serbian controlled Central Government with own actions and by backing the ethinc actions by the royalist Serbian Chetniks towads Croats and Bosnians!
    And this bad and criminal behavior was after Dayton done further by the Serbians in Kosovo!
     
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    I did not cast one side as innocent. I readily admit there were nasty deeds done by the Serbs and explained some of the historical backdrop. From the beginning I caste the situation as a "blood feud".

    The problem is that US/NATO took sides in a blood feud - like the US has done in Israel. Demonizing one side while making the other look innocent.

    The beginning was during WW2 - the ethnic state sanctioned genocide by Croats and Muslims against Orthodox and Jewish Serbs.

    The annexation of land from a sovereign nation is a problem. It sets horrible precedent.

    Just like WW2 did not justify the Serbian atrocities - the war in Yugoslavia does not justify the atrocities being carried out by the Albanians on ethnic Serbs.
     
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    If the Americans don't want Russian presence in the Balkans they should support Serbia.
    Pushing for Albanian expansion is only resulting in more and more Russian influence in the Balkans.
    Serbia in their History has always been on the western side and an ally. Whilst keeping it good relations with Russia.

    The only reason US is supporting the Albanians is because they do as US says.
    A Serbian interview that was done with Haradinaj Kosovar Prime Minister, he stated clearly that they do not have a foreign Policy and that the foreign policy is runned by the US
    https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2018&mm=04&dd=17&nav_id=103951

    So we can all agree that Kosovo is American interest and has nothing to do with freedom of "Kosovars".
    If the Serbs in the 90s said to the Americans we will do whatever you want we would today be best friends. Personally I don't need friends like that.
     
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    The US has had a nasty habit of supporting the wrong side of late - especially when it comes to Islamist extremists.

    In Syria we armed and supported Al Qaeda and the Islamist Jihadist groups that ended up coalescing into the modern incarnation of ISIS.
    We currently are on the same side as Al Qaeda ( and Islamist extremism in general) in Yemen.
    We turned Libya into a Jihadist wonderland ... basically turned that nation over to Islamist radicals.

    Albania is a different kettle of fish. While they are predominantly Muslim - Islamist extremism is not at the levels like in Saudi Arabia or other Muslim Nations. It is however on the rise. Numerous foreign fighters went from Kosovo and Albania to support the Jihad in Syria and this was encouraged by the Gov't.

    The biggest problem with Albania is that it is a mafia/ criminal state. This is the reason why those wanting to get out of Kosovo number second only to Syria.

    https://www.cssii.unifi.it/upload/sub/zaimi-religious-radicalization-and-violent-islamist.pdf

    Albania/Kosovo is women trafficking and organ trafficking central.

    Kosovo is way worse off than when it was part of Serbia and so are its people. Another failed state ripe for radicalization.
     
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    A treaty cannot alter the constitution. The constitution clearly says the congress has the power to declare war. A treaty cannot change that, only an amendment can.
     
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    Fine, just don't claim "we" all agreed to it, because "we" did not. US politicians may have agreed to it, but Americans as a whole never actually made a decision to become the world police.

    Only insofar as the constitution allows. A treaty cannot amend or override the constitution. Only the congress has the power to declare war. Absent such a declaration, any military action outside of purely defensive operations is illegal under US law.
     
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    Are you educated enough to challenge me with the facts of the argument which bring Russia and Serbia together on Serbian atrocities in the middle of Europe, including wide range of state sponsored terrorism? Do you really have the guts for that my child?
     

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