Kylie Moore-Gilbert - Continuing failed quiet diplomacy route is ‘foolish’

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In 2018 Kylie Moore-Gilbert an Australian-British academic was arrested at Tehran airport accused of espionage after someone she interviewed flagged her as suspicious (flimsy at best, I get flagged suspicious all the time), she was imprisoned in Iran for ten years.

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    Where's our resident @Iranian Monitor , Sir you have posted extraordinary photographs of Iran on this site, stunning, mysterious and steeped in history. I had my bags packed only to find how narrow of an escape that was. Probably would have locked me up too and thrown away the key.

    Why are you keeping Kylie locked up on evidence that are extremely thin? If your aim is to hurt our politicians they have very thick skins, the only ones hurting here is Kylie and her family.

    In the video below Peter Greste who were locked up in Egypt on equally thin evidence discuss Kylie's case with Sky

     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at this!!!!! tried in secret... that's terrible

    & moved into the dessert... even worse!
    Kylie Moore-Gilbert: Australia says lecturer jailed in Iran 'is well'
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53649419
    well... she's not well! she's locked up on false charges and stashed in the middle of the desert in some hell hole prison... how can she be well
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you go to places with a strong anti-American belief then you risk this.

    She was stupid for going, I have no sympathy for her.

    Besides, how do you know she wasn't a spy?
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well...number..
    1. She's Australian, the world looked a lot different in 2018 and it was related to her work as an academic.
    2. She's an expert in Islamic studies so decidedly less stupid than perhaps yourself
    3. How do you know she was a spy... after all she was tried in secret and continues to deny that she was a spy.
     
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    I don't understand how she could be locked up for ten years if she was arrested in 2018 or does that time frame relate to the person that flagged her as suspicious?
     
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    Her sentence perhaps? 2 down, 8 to go?
     
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    I was thinking that but this is the phrase used: "she was imprisoned in Iran for ten years." Or, maybe it means that she was imprisoned for ten years and was officially arrested in 2018? How does it read to you?
     
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    Its worded a bit confusingly, but being 1/5 the way through a 10 year sentence would still fit.

    She was imprissonned and it is for 10 years (if true, I havnt looked it up, but OPer is generally accurate ime).
     
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    OK. I thought I lost the ability to read and count there for a second. LOL Thanks.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A bit about Kylie's studies & career, very accomplished someone with her talent languishing in jail is an absolute waste....it's a disgrace.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylie_Moore-Gilbert

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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Qarchak prison is your worst nightmare, I had a look at where they've moved Kylie. Amazing what crawls out when you start turning rocks over... the prison's inhumane conditions are hell hole personified.

    A prisoner (suspected of having Coronavirus) committed suicide after spending just 3 months inside this prison.


    https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...0/Two-female-prisoners-dead-at-Qarchak-prison

    And Exploitation

    Report on exploitation of female prisoners at Varamin’s Qarchak Prison
    https://iran-hrm.com/index.php/2018...-female-prisoners-at-varamins-qarchak-prison/
    https://iran-hrm.com/index.php/2018...-female-prisoners-at-varamins-qarchak-prison/
     
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    685 Days incarcerated (a bit more but I don't know the exact date they arrested her at the airport)

    Why can't Iran run these prison facilities better? The only answer I could find is that they don't want to.

    What sort of person runs a prison where prisoners are raped & tortured until they choose to die? It has to be someone who themselves are broken, a sadistic psychopath who enjoys breaking people & particularly women.

    And why would you allow someone this sick to run your prison facility? In the whole of Iran there has to be someone that are more capable. I have agonised over this but have to conclude it's because they are doing exactly what you want them to do, breaking people.

    I'm am very sad for Kylie, this is cold blooded murder. I don't know what the stats are for people who have survived this place, but from what I've read so far, Qarchak will break most people.

    I think we perhaps need a thread for Kylie in the Australian section where we can regularly post "for her"
     
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    Kylie have been released, I'm so happy for her and her family...also happy for the Iranian's going home to be with their families.

    Thank you Iran, thank you Australia....they say it was an International swap so there are others involved.... thank you all.....you give us hope.:heart:

     
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    The Iranians do this to make money. Perhaps we should send an armored division or two to rescue these innocent people.
     
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    Iran is evil and corrupt on every level and the Democrats love them and give them billions of dollars.

    Without Trump America will go back to kissing Iran's shoes. Biden is a weakling with corrupt agendas and he supported Obama's deal that did nothing but make Iran rich.

    10 years is way to long. Kylie already served 2 years. Send her home. I doubt she will ever go back to Iran.

    The people of Iran need to rise up and take back thier freedom.
     
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    Why don't you send Trump to Iran to get her out ? Personally.

    I hear he's not busy after January 20, 2021.
     
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    Trump was very hard on Iran and supported its people for freedom. You will never see that under Biden's "Harris administration".
     
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    Btw in the media there was a big ruckus about exchanging 3 terrorists for Kylie's freedom.

    I will remind these hypocrites that they had no problem with installing the terrorist Mandela as president in South Africa....one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter they say.... well you should apply that universally if you're going to be ok with terrorists as president. (This act btw have killed over 500 000 people in 25 years..more will follow) so ****

    As far as I'm concerned, Kylie has suffered enough... I'm glad she is coming home.
     
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    Put up or shut up: Send Trump to Iran to recover her.
     
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    It's called Realpolitik.
     
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    This is really cool. Well done.
     
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    Ever notice how, to every nation we hate, our citizens are treated as "spies."?
    Go to Cuba, or Venezuela, or China, or Iran or North Korea - you could be arrested for 'spying.'
    As if these nations had something we wanted.
     
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    I feel you will, moments afterward, just walk into another wall, but I'll turn you back in the direction of the room, anyway: the OP says she is Australian-British (not American).
     
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    I'd like to visit Cuba and Iran....love the 50's vibe history in Cuba, the cars, buildings....Iran also have significant history...very interesting.... of course will now settle for a documentary :lol:
     
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