Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well the churches could start by following their own teachings and selling all their vast property holdings to help the poor. But we are not holding our breaths.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point!

    If the churches were to maximize their ability to save lives and feed hungry people......... and hire homeless people to become actors playing the role of homeless people.... and hire victims of the sex industry to become actors playing the role of themselves...... and to speak openly about their life and situation then........ with all that extra land on the market....... you would tend to think that the value of real estate would decrease but...........

    Pastor David Wilkerson was shown a vision of something very different back in 1973!?!?

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AlpinLuke.... I have gotten the impression that Pope Francis is an astonishingly "old soul" who is here to play an off the scale important role in the greatest transition to occur in many millennia.

    I believe that a Jubilee Year will begin on Yom Kippur 2016 and end the day before Yom Kippur 2017.

    I feel that chapters 42 - 46 of Isaiah will come to pass step by step by step over the coming 19 months in ways that will astonish observers.

    I just got a shockingly brilliant analysis of all this over in another discussion:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/other...will-ufos-assist-bringing-peace-world-29.html

    Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????

    (post #282)

    AlpinLuke..... I predict......… "chains broken...… captives set free"..... and it will be done....."not for price or reward!"
     
  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am getting closer to figuring out a way to do this in my area.........

    it could end up looking a bit like Alpha Churches..... (Eccumenical Movement).....
    vs non-Alpha churches..........
    but the atmosphere could be far less adversarial as local young film makers are brought into the formula.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=458440&p=1066240450#post1066240450
     
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    When I went to church my church did have it's own currency. They were called Bible Bucks, and they were worth money at the store. I found it much harder to get a bible buck than to get a regular buck... Not sure why.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is an excellent question!!!!

    I have postulated in the past that the Conservative Movement relies far far far too heavily on a statement made by the Apostle Paul.......
    I believe that it should become rather easy to earn Bible Bucks.... if churches could be broken out of the mentality of poverty......
    and depression.... .and lack of faith........ and sense of superiority over others?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/conspiracy-theories/371595-what-foundation-conservative-movement.html
    What is the foundation of the Conservative Movement?
    2Thessalonians 3:10
    "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

    But what if there is evidence that all of us in a sense volunteered……… previous to our birth…… to participate in a massive reality film event with great psychological, spiritual, emotional and educational value?

    During his brush with death Dannion Brinkley was shown that only the most philosophical advanced and courageous spiritual beings/ angels…. would volunteer to incarnate as a child destined to be mentally or physically handicapped?

    Don't starts in reality films get supplied with the basics such as a meal while they are on the set?
     
  7. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably not........
    but the idea deserves to be seriously discussed......
    especially considering how much danger so many Christians are in
    in so many nations?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=409317&page=3&p=1066247637#post1066247637

    Thread: Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?

     
  8. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know of somebody who is hoping to put together a company within a few months, form a micro-nation, and print up a micro-nation currency unit.....
    that will serve as a prop in a number of proposed semi-reality science fiction film projects.

    Some of those projects might fit in with......

    the women in Iraq who are taking military training to fight ISIS!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If...... the Catholics....... were to come to the place where they were to believe that Pastor David Wilkerson....
    received a genuine message from G-d.....(that I quote on the first page of this discussion)..... and if
    The Vatican were to invest in land in the countryside....... one hundred miles or less from cities in America......

    they would become extremely wealthy.

    (This would scare many Protestants).....
     
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    No nation or anybody should be able to print money. All money should be coins, and the value therein, such as gold, silver, copper, or what have you. This would stop governments from spending what they don't have, reduce government agencies, they couldn't just print money out of thin air, more power to the people, so much greatness would come out of it. Paper with ink has no value, other than the sheer thought of people thinking it does. A gold coin has the value therein, and requires not, to be backed by anything.
     
  11. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That sounds logical........
    you could be more correct than I am at this time but......

    I have enormous difficulty seeing how the productive capability of America should be at all limited.....
    by how much gold or silver in America?

    Our productive capability.... is astonishing.... but the supply of gold is limited.
     
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    Dennis?

    Isn't it a LITTLE narcissistic to keep resurrecting posts from 3-4-5-6-7-8-9 months ago....just because YOU think what YOU post is so "vitally important"?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But using it to support a particular cause... .such as homelessnes........

    or organic farming...... or saving the bees.........

    would be a new thing.


    A series of semi-reality science fiction films set supposedly in 1939.......
    in which several GMO farmers.........REPENTED..... of what I believe to be a
    serious error.........

    and they enact going to church........ and giving up on their use of terminator seed technology
    .. and they make the switch over to technology that would fit with the year 1939.......

    could be one important step in the right direction for at least one or two farmers.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/466314-russia-says-no-gmo-seeds.html
    Russia Says No to GMO Seeds
    I hate to admit it.......

    but on the issue of GMO seeds........ Russia is far ahead of us and they deserve credit for this stance!

    Frankly....... I term myself "pro-life"..... .but if all that is meant by pro-life is to be against
    third term abortions........
    and if I support GMO technology by my silence........

    then am I a hypocrite to call myself "pro-life?"


    http://russia-insider.com/en/busine...-aims-food-supply-thats-cleanest-world/ri8790
    Russia Says No to GMO Seeds, Aims for Food Supply That's 'Cleanest in the World'

    - - - Updated - - -

    Well..... you could be right Gorn Captain...................
    but Rabbi Nachman did explain how an evil streak in us.... can be used by G-d to
    produce a good result..........

    If I wasn't rather narcissistic..... .I probably could not make it in politics?!


    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...tional-leader-canadas-conservative-party.html

    Dennis Tate for National Leader of Canada's Conservative Party.
     
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    Debt existed long before fiat currency existed. So governments will still spend money that they don't have.

    Also, gold coins have no value, other than the cheer thought of people thinking it does.
     
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    Sounds good...but be sure and tell them in your announcement speech how NDEs are related to Bigfoots who crashed at Roswell and then disguised themselves as Garner Ted Armstrong.
     
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    Gold can be used for numerous things, such as electricity. It is very rare compared to other metals. It is what currencies are usually backed by. Gold has always been the number one item for wealth, all throughout man's history. Would you rather have paper with ink, or gold coins/bars. I do understand your point, it is humans that make anything valuable. But we have always had money/currency, thus gold is number one in that area. Plus, even if it was not used for currency, look at all the things that can be done with it. Paper, I guess you could make a fire, or wipe your ()()().
     
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    Oh, good grief....

    PLEASE don't tell me you buy those over-priced gold coins from "Goldline" because some radio show host or some nutso Rightwing website tells you to?

    Please don't confirm the worst.
     
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    No worries, I have no gold.
     
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    Lol paper has many uses. It probably has more than gold. The only attribute of gold that makes it unique is that nobody can duplicate it... yet. And that's not even really true. Gold doesn't have a finite supply. If suddenly it was discovered that China had billions of pounds of gold just sitting in mines, then the value of our gold back currency would hypothetically go to near zero. What you really want is fiat currency that has a set intrinsic value. Additionally, you don't want the banks to be able to lend on margin. When a bank lends money it only needs to have a certain percentage of that money to be able to lend the money. This basically creates money out of thin air. So what you really want is a set amount of money with no way of creating more money, right?
     
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    Do you have any idea how ignorant your being. Nations of this world confiscated the gold and precious metals form their people, and gave them paper with their faces on it. They control the fake money, and hold the real money. You think nations don't go after gold and precious metals. I'm not calling you ignorant, but your sure acting that way. Gold is and always will be the wealthiest item. What do you think the market is based off of? Again, don't be ignorant just to argue.

    Yes, no money out of thin air.
     
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    Wow. I was just called ignorant by someone who was not calling me ignorant. I was also called ignorant by someone who does not know how to spell you're. And I was called ignorant by someone who didn't understand what I said. Lol I think the funniest thing is that you think I would be ignorant just to be ignorant. Why would anyone ever do that?
     
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    Are you telling me how to spell while using, "Lol". We live in an age of abbreviating short sayings and words, who cares if I misspell your/you're. As long as you know what I meant right. Like "Lol". Get over yourself.
     
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    Why do you care if I am ignorant? Get over yourself.
     
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    I don't. What makes you think I do?
     
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    There will always be ways to create money out of paper, data, or thin air.
     

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