Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

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  1. atheiststories

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    Even if the government is actively trying not to allow it?

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    YOU SAID SO.
     
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    Governments do not allow cocaine.
     
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    There would not be a black market on money... that is stupid.
     
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    I said, "I am not calling you ignorant, but you're sure acting that way." Please don't put words in my mouth. Or baring false witness.
     
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    You also said "don't be ignorant just to argue." Can you please just accept that you are not my equal and that I should rule over you as a god king? You can go to my heaven if you're good.
     
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    You have to be kidding.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Done properly... it is a potential source of tax revenue for provinces, states and even for Washington and
    Ottawa.


     
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    Northumberland Notes used a very simple ledger with debits and credits for the thirty or forty
    families that were using that system.

    That would fit in very well with a semi-reality science fiction film project set supposedly in 1939
    that is set up to attempt to address some of the problems people are facing in 2016.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...nce-unified-theory-modern-world-problems.html
     
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    Nobody suggested starting a competing currency
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually TEN USA States are discussing the minting of State coins and
    actively encouraging local municipal governments to print up paper currencies
    similar to The Ithaca Hour.

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/17/pf/local_currency/index.htm?iid=F_Jump
     
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    You're kidding me. You don't even know what I'm talking about, and you started a whole new topic.
     
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    If... .the Donald Trump Presidency leads to a significant increase in activity along the line of
    Black Lives Matter or Occupy Washington...... .except far far far worse.......
    then Canadian churches should get prepared to reach out to the cities that
    are hardest hit.

    I completely agree with Penrod's reply!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=465121&page=8&p=1066456437#post1066456437
    Civil War if Hillary Clinton is President?



     
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    Almost anything can become money - even tulips.

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    The tell me what you are talking about. Black markets in government currencies are in fact common.
     
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    Nobody on this website... I'm saying that this is completely out of left field.
     
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    I was talking about a fiat currency without fractional reserve banking, therefore a system where there is basically no inflation.

    Now what were you talking about? How could a black market currency exist? Why would anyone want it?
     
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    Currency manipulation is the second oldest racket. All systems can be rigged.
     
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    I only know of currency manipulation by the central bank. Are there other types that I don't know of?
     
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    Which makes sense considering that I am hoping to influence Canada's Conservative Party and movement
    somewhat toward the left......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...tional-leader-canadas-conservative-party.html
    Dennis Tate for National Leader of Canada's Conservative Party.

    An extremely serious error was made by a very popular Canadian
    Prime Minister back in 1974 and it kind of amazed me that
    P. M. Stephen Harper did not come right out and tell Canadians
    exactly what the error was............... make a few guesses as to why
    this obviously terrible policy was began........... and do something about it
    .... but he didn't so.................. I will!

    Quoting the late Mr. Jack Layton will get me into hot water with
    many long time members of the Conservative Party but........
    I find it amazing that anybody can deal so well with such a large
    subject in only one sentence!


    Oh Canada Movie 6 - Banking - 5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1HfKIvmZGU


    I tried my best to find something positive in the policy here:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...e-elliott-trudeau-save-world-environment.html

    Did P. M. Pierre Elliott Trudeau save the world environment?
    This is actually a quite serious question.

    P. M. Trudeau made an error back in 1974, that may well come to be understood as one of the most important mistakes ever made by a political leader.

    When P. M. Pierre Elliott Trudeau took Canada off the gold standard, (which incidentally had to be done for many valid reasons), a miscalculation was made that is the number one reason why our national debt has spiraled out of control.

    But..... there is a very good side to this because all of us know that we humans have been in a somewhat similar mentality to our ancestors who shot, boiled, barbecued, roasted and friend passenger pigeons into extinction.

    We are highly prone to OVER Consumptionism............. I addressed part of the background issues back in my 2006 provincial level campaign as an independent.
     
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    Or... land outside of cities where
    so many problems seem to be multiplied.

    Church currencies... in a local areas could potentially play an important role in
    boom in USA real estate value outside of major cities.

     
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    Yes.... theoretically a number of large church currencies could play a significant role in
    paying off the national debts of Israel, the USA, Canada and on and on and on and on.........

    Metaphorically...... it seems to me that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has a harem.......

    the Jewish people are one wife and as Messiah he has one covenant with them that includes
    every word from Ezekiel chapter 40 - 48.......

    IF... the Christian church could recognize the Jewish people as another legitimate Bride of Messiah.....
    they could well rise up to Cyrus Consciousness and.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...role-of-elijah-needed.499830/#post-1067242048

     
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    If the currency can work with all other currencies, it really doesn't matter. The Vatican is the mother of all churches. And the richest organization in the world. She might not have the gold in currency that others do (then again she might), but with all her precious stones, gems, relics, and historical documents hidden away within the Vatican archives, she most certainly is the richest organization in the world. And the most influential.
     
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    Can one get the mark, if the fear of the Lord is in them?

    I think we all have a dark heart, the question is how dark is it? We are living in age filled with nothing but lies and deception, and for those who find the truth, they are merely mocked and ridiculed. Most often as a conspiracy freak.

    Will the mark be forced on us, or will we wake up one day to see it on either our right hand or forehead? I have always thought that the choice will be the individuals, even if that means losing their head or taking the mark. It's still a choice.

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    I could be wrong..... but I believe that the worst example of the Mark of the Beast will NOT occur while Mr. Donald Trump is President.
     
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    On the other hand if a particular state.... .or group of churches within that state.......wanted to do something
    concrete for the homeless there..... there are major advantages to a currency that is NOT accepted by
    liquor stores.



    http://www.anonews.co/bitcoin-100-72m/

    If You Invested $100 In Bitcoin In 2010, You’d Be Worth $72 Million Now
     
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    The movement toward Intelligent Design.... specifically the idea of a "Creator" evolving and learning over infinite time in the past......... combined with the possibility of an Adam and Eve could quite probably being created........ (and before them a Covering Cherub Lucifer who perhaps led a third of the angels in a revolt / experiment)...... could revolutionize economics.

    Christians and Jews do so much volunteerism that one hour of volunteerism by a Christian or Jew......
    could become the most easily understood measurement of value on earth?!

    .......
    https://www.morningstarministries.org/resources/prophetic-bulletins/2011/great-tsunami#.WbEwbtOGOV4

     

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