Lawrence Wilkerson: NATO will split if proxy war with Russia continues, raising the risk of nuclear

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    Russian Tsar Peter 1 in 1721, according to the "Nishtadsky Treaty", bought the Baltic States from the Swedes for 2 million rubles.
    These are Russian lands that the West regularly tried to steal from Russia. But the Russians always get their own back.
    As Bismarck said: "Don't expect that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always came for their money. And when they come, do not retell the agreement you signed, which you must justify. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth playing fair with the Russians, or not playing at all."
     
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    Do you remember how Winston Churchill called Poland? He called her the "Hyena of Europe."
    By the way, it was Poland that participated in the attack on Czechoslovakia. Have you forgotten about it?
     
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    Really?.. China does not report...but you know about it.:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Whatever comes will come.
     
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    Are these counterpoints? Because they sound more like non-sequitors.
     
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    what's next? the tripple dog dare?
     
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    I think you will be very suprised on who is and who is not in heaven.
     
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    And they also broke away right after WW1 and the Russian Tsar was killed. They were "reconquered" by Stalin. In fact, that region was fighting for independence by the Swedes, the Russians, and the Soviets ever since.
     
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    This is a fact. Ukraine today is exactly the same hyena as Poland. In 1938, Poland, together with Hungary and Germany, began the World War in Europe with the occupation of Czechoslovakia. Today, Ukraine has been killing people in Donbas for 8 years.
    Russians then and now act as the savior of the people's.
     
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    You're writing nonsense. If you bought a cow, but it ran away, it still remains yours. And you can always return it.
    Your example is correct about Alaska. The Russians leased Alaska to the USA. and therefore Alaska should return to Russia.
    But the Baltic States were purchased, about which there is a corresponding document.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    What do the Russians pay you? I ask because my brother needs a new job.
     
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    Actually it has never been more unified.
     
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    You are ready for anything for money. However, I'm not surprised.
     
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    In Soviet Russia, money spends you!
     
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    F&&& Putin and F&&& Russia.
     
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    Yes, because survivors reported it, duh!
     
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    Does your comment make any sense or is it a random set of letters?
     
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    Ahahaha....:roflol::roflol::roflol: I wonder, do you understand what you are writing?
     
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    We won't miss it. It is terribly expensive.
     
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    Reading through this thread it appears to have been entirely created by a Wagner BOT. Either the contributions are sheer trolling, just blunt anti-NATO/ West is lying/ Ukraine is Nazi/ Russia is great... drivel, of an extremely poor quality with no insights, argument or anything of the slightest interest...OR... they are the precise opposite - Ukraine is winning, NATO is united.... exactly the sort of meaningless denial that a Russian troll-factory would construct in order to light their flame bait.

    Of course this could all be genuine people. They could be real Russians and their proxies: as Russia descends into a grotesque expansionism which goes beyond even fascism and dreams of Russki Mir from Dublin to Anchorage. They could be real Americans as the old America First appeasers of the Nazis in the USA from the 1930s (Coughlin, Lindbergh) return as a new America First movement (Carlson, Trump), with exactly the same aspiration that fascism should defeat European democracy as they destroy American democracy. They are certainly fascist... as no significant American figures have been since the 1930s. The word may have been devalued in the past by mis-use, but it is certainly appropriate now. As before fascism is enabled by inept "liberals' who have messed up and here we have such a type too, those whose focus on identity politics and contempt for what Americans call "organised labor" has enabled the return of this horror. Democrats since Clinton have abandoned of the white working class constituency that through the New Deal had built postwar America; now they also distinguish themselves by the puerility of their arguments.

    The quality of the argument and the lack of insights, nuance, dialectic.... is indicative of a troll-farm... but it is at the same time indicative of the standard of debate from real people at this sad time in history. Are there actually any real people on this thread? And if so why are you not embarrassed by the tedious drivel you have posted? Now I wonder how a BOT or a troll in St Petersburg will respond to that ha ha.
     
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    Zelensky Holds Court With Ukraine's Most Notorious Neo-Nazi
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    'The group’s origins are no secret...'

    'new footage published by Zelensky shows the leader openly collaborating with a fascist ideologue who pledged to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade…against Semite-led Untermenschen.”'

    Untermensch is the Nazi term for non-Aryan people they deem as inferior.

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    'Ukrainian President Vlodymyr Zelensky uploaded a video to his Telegram channel showing him holding court with one of the most notorious neo-Nazis in modern Ukrainian history: Azov Battalion founder Andriy Biletsky.'

    'the brigade Zelensky was addressing is the newest iteration of Ukraine’s Nazi Azov Battalion.'

    'But in spite of Biletsky’s rich Nazi pedigree, the video Zelensky published shows him sharing a moment of bonhomie with a white nationalist militant who has described Jews as “our enemy,” or as the “real masters” of the oligarchs and craven politicians that have corrupted Ukraine.'

    These Nazis have promised Zelensky that if he negotiates a settlement with Russia that they will kill him, and they will.

    'Biletsky’s college thesis was a defense of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, a group of paramilitary Nazi collaborators founded by Stepan Bandera’s Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists that carried out ethnic cleansings of more than 100,000 Jews and Poles. After leaving university, Biletsky quickly embedded with multiple fascist outfits, including the “Stepan Bandera All-Ukrainian Organization ‘Tryzub’” and the Social-National Party — not to be confused with the National Socialist Party of 1940’s Germany.'

    If you give Bribed Biden enough bribe money, he'll even fund the war machine of Nazis.
     

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