legal gun saves life, kills mass murderer

ironically this happened in a cemetery.

one life was saved, and a mass murderer was killed, potentially saving many more lives.

The deranged mass murderer had already killed one man, and was chasing another to hunt down and kill him.
They were both cemetery workers.

 

It is great that this time a gun was used to save a life.

Never forget 572,000 lives lost to guns USA 1999-2016.

 

That doesn't include suicides, or husbands murdering their wives in premeditated cold calculated murders, does it?

Because if it did, that number would be kind of disingenuous, don't you agree?


Besides, in this case it was a murderer. Is your claim that he wouldn't have been a murderer if he didn't have a gun?

 

As long as we are remembering those who died before their time, lets also remember the 3,450,000 (that's millions not hundred thousands) who died during that same time period from other mostly preventable health issues: 2,250,000 from lung cancer and 1,200,000 from diabetes. Interesting note: lung cancer and diabetes are mostly self-inflicted. Should we consider them suicides?!?!

Numbers based on CDC stats: https://www.cdc.gov/

 

And over 2,000,000 are saved annually by having a gun, why is it you support a pro-criminal agenda, have you no sympathy or concern for the law abiding?

 

I oppose tobacco and alcohol as well.

 

How is this number determined?

 

Death is the way of life.

 

By the CDC, you have already been told that so don't play dumb.

 

Not a single person ever lost their life to a gun.

 

Over Human History, tens of millions of people were killed by guns.

 

What does that mean?

 

And during that same period of time thousands or times more people saved their lives with guns.

You can preach about death all you want, but I will side with saving lives every time.

 

That statement is 100% false. People have used guns for many reasons. History also shows unarmed people being exterminated without the use of guns.

 

No one got killed by a gun the same way no one got fat from a fork.

 

I still don't understand. Are you saying that someone had to pull a trigger in order for someone (else or oneself) to be killed?

 

Great analogy, the problem is not the tool it's the fool holding the tool.

Folks who think logically understand, guns like cars, do not kill people, what causes the harm and deaths are the operators of those devices, but there some people who utilize some rather strange logic, while they will blame a drunk driver for causing a wreck that injures or kills someone, but when it comes to a gun they twist their logic around backwards and blame the tool for the injury or death.

I personally believe they don't really care about others lives, it is their hatred for guns not life that drives them which is why they have no problems with using death or lies to promote their cause.

 

Well that's how guns work, they don't go off and start shooting people all by themselves.

The answer is rather simple if you understand the subject logically, not emotionally.

 

I am trying to understand it logically. I just don't equate "Not a single person ever lost their life to a gun." with "No one got killed by a gun the same way no one got fat from a fork." because people HAVE lost their lives to a gun. The gun is inanimate but people have died because of them.

 

Yes. Disarming good people adds opportunity where a motive exists. The unarmed 98 pound female is no match for the 210 pound rapist/murderer. Millions of unarmed subjects are no match for a tyrannical government. Murder and suicide are not the result of guns. Neither misery nor motive come from a gun.

They may have good intentions, but simply cannot figure out how to combat evil. Going after law abiding citizens is safe and gives them a warm feeling, but in the end, they only end up giving violent people an advantage.

 

Still 100% false. No one has ever lost their life to a gun. Their loss was the result of intent or negligence.

 

OK. We're not getting anywhere with this so I'll bow out.

 

Fair enough. Neither side wants to see people harmed and maybe one day both sides will team up against those committing violence. Meanwhile, evil can flourish while the rights of good people are under constant attack.

 

False. Not merely factually incorrect, but outright false. No individual has ever been killed by a firearm. Instead they have been killed with firearms, but always due to the mishandlings of another in either a reckless or otherwise illegal manner.

Such is not the same thing.

 

The same argument can be used to justify illegal drugs. I oppose guns, illegal drugs, and tobacco.