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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some of us are- but none of us are perfect. Life is not only about surviving- it's about living in a way that makes you glad you did, and that involves calculated risk. We're not always right, and neither are the animals of the world who generally learn a lot faster than we do.

    Failure is also a form of education- if you try and fail, it is only a disaster if you fail to learn. If you don't try at all, you have failed at everything.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that were true- we would still be cavemen. There would be no footprints on the moon, no Einsteins- and no computer for you to post that with. While it is true that trial and error is a good part of the process, it is also true that as Sir Issac Newton said- we advance by standing on the shoulders of giants.... learning from those who have learned before us, each generation raising the bar as best it can. I don't know how old you are- but your grandparents or great grandparents probably studied by the light of kerosene lamps and were absolutely fascinated by inventions such as the car and airplane. Never in the history of the world has change moved so fast as it is right now, and we are still impatient.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point.

    We learn very little.

    Thanks for setting me straight.

    Especially since our reverting to caveman state, is teetering precariously on the whims of madmen.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    So what? You're not a climate expert. Why do you even have an opinion?

    Do you go to the doctor and argue about the diagnosis too? When building a bridge, should we ask for public opinion on the stress analysis to determine if it's safe? Take a vote? "Do you accept this statistical analysis?" Yes______No

    If a doctor tells your you're dying and need immediate treatment, so you glum onto anyone who will argue the point? Do you run to an expert plumber and believe his diagnosis instead?
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because I can breathe?
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    According to the man who finally got the Katrina disaster under control, Texas ignored all of the lessons from Katrina.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ret-gen...response-stop-patting-each-other-on-the-back/


     
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    I will look deeper into what he expects but IMO the response has been good. Some mistakes made, but those will always be there.

    I do agree with him that high risk people, such as hospital and nursing home patients that cannot move on their own, should have been moved out in advance of the storm. I also think some of the chemicals and other hazardous materials, like the plant that blew up, should have been moved prior to the storm.

    Lastly, I think the general is taking advantage of copious amounts of 20/20 hindsight. The worst case predictions for rain in the area 24 hours before landfall were about half of the current totals. If those numbers were accurate, the preplanned and staged response would have been enough to handle the immediate effort.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just a comment from an outsider here...

    Each of has to be a judge of whom to believe, and of course experts are often wrong. Who do we believe? Well- you don't want to do your own brain surgery, but you had better be wise enough to pick a competent surgeon to do it. As for me, I accept that picking someone who has the skill to do a job is my responsibility, so I do question anyone I trust my life to- and I don't give them the job until they have earned my confidence. Including doctors. Especially doctors.

    Some things like climate change have a great deal of assumption built into the opinions, because there is so much we do not know or understand. As Einstein once said, "we do not know 1% of anything." But of course, we construct our analysis on that- 1% knowledge that is probably only 50% accurate, and add 99% assumption.

    I think everyone knows the climate is changing, that is shown in data. Being a curious person, I've followed the theories- We do know that vast amounts of ice melted about 20,000 years ago, so obviously there was a very major climate change.... but no industrial emissions were around to blame it on. Obviously, factory fumes and cow farts are not the only pieces to the puzzle, but since we don't know what they are, we don't include them. It's easy to be wrong when you ignore the parts you don't understand.
     
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    Here's a list of all the Antifa people who donated and/or volunteered.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WOW! I missed the edit.

    You wouldn't BELIEVE how I treat my, or any doctor.
    I've had many jobs in my life, & yeah, I get RIGHT INVOLVED with ANYTHING in my life... ESPECIALLY if it costs money, because I PROBABLY have experience in, or know people I TRUST more with experience in, Anything I might come across in life. Happens once you start to push 50.
    You need some pills man. Unless you can prove you are, you're no expert either, & even the ACTUAL experts disagree.
     
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    You can also go to youcaring.com and donate to JJ Watt's fundraiser. It is past $16,000,000.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree!
    And, I like your signature quote- never heard that one before.
     
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    Cool for me, this Texan doesn't want or need your money. Even though I had to go in to my job on Wedenesday, Thursday, and Friday, in the evenings I tore out over 300 linear feet of my own wallboard, tore out 2,000 square feet of wet carpet at my mother-in-law's house, and helped my neighbor with flooding issues at his house. Have a friend staying with me because her house took water. I will foot the bill for my repairs and for my friend's accommodations without expecting a dime from you or any governmental agency whatsoever.

    Seriously, keep your money, you need it worse then we do.
     
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    What I have seen down here for the past week is actually quite amazing. Neighbors coming together helping each other, law enforcement, fire departments, first responders, and tons of folks from unaffected areas in Texas and Louisiana coming in with supplies and boats to help out. What a great community and country we live in!

    FYI: The county with the largest population of those affected is Harris County. The 2016 Census gives these approximate numbers:
    42% Hispanic
    30% White
    20% Black
    7% Asian

    None of the above mattered.

    There is way way more good in the United States than bad. Unfortunately, the tremendous amount of "good" is generally brushed aside and the isolated pockets of "bad" are constantly splashed throughout the media. Sad that the MSM brainwashes us into thinking that we live in a horrible country. I for one know better because I see the good every day.
     
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    It's quite refreshing to see the love given to my city for the people who need it.

    There is good news, the Brazos River water level has started to fall so 6000 homes will be spared high water.

    The water in other parts of the city are starting to recede. Our watershed continues to work at a higher capacity to help drain the levees and reservoirs.

    I am a Houstonian and I happened to be lucky and did not suffer any ill-effects of the storm. But on behalf of my neighbors friends and family that did thank you.
     
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    I do plan on keeping my money. I don't need it worse than Texas does, but it will cover seeding my grass so it looks pretty this winter.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am 100% in agreement with your decision. That's the beauty of charity versus taxpayer funded welfare programs. With charity, each individual decides whether they want to give or not, and that is how it should be. Winter Rye perhaps?
     
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    A blend of fescues and perennial rye for now. I will do other parts with K-31 later. The sun pretty much burns out anything in the front allowing the soft crabgrass to take over so I K-31 that part. I don't hate crabgrass, but when the winter kills it, it leaves me with a mudhole out front.
     
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    Yep, based on the things you and I are concerned about, I have to admit that we lead wonderful lives in a wonderful country. Now that the flooding is gone, my first project is to rebuild the rack for my barbecue wood. Imagine that! With all the starving children in the world and other truly deplorable things happening all the time, here I am thinking about a rack for my barbecue wood and you are concerned with your lawn. We have it crazy-good in this country, despite all those constantly crying "wolf".

    Back to the flooding. I volunteered today doing a phone bank with my organization. We began making phone calls to the 3500 members to determine who needed help and what the organization can do for them. Of those who were unaffected, many volunteered their time to assist others in need. Our membership is quite diverse, and what I see is people helping people, regardless of their ethnicity. Quite heartwarming.
     
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    Here's a place to check them out.
    https://www.charitynavigator.org/in...9acd7de9ceed4a4&at_ab=per-2&at_pos=0&at_tot=1
     
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    Why is it that people's basic goodness is usually only evident after a catastrophe?
     
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    God bless you and everyone who wants to help their fellow Americans in their time of need!
     
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    I have donated to the Red Cross. I encourage everyone who can to help out.

    Seth
     
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    Sure, if you don't think beyond your nose. I guess some people think of only themselves and that's where it ends.

    Christian I assume?

    Why Are There Over 50,000 Homeless Veterans On Any Given Night?
    http://woundedwarriorhomes.org/home...MIjK2T2M6M1gIVEZd-Ch2FegB0EAAYASAAEgKDBfD_BwE

    More than 500,000 people homeless in the United States
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...he-united-states-report-idUSKCN0T908720151120

    42 million Americans struggle with hunger, a number nearly equal to the 43.1 million officially living in poverty. Based on annual income, 72% of the households the Feeding America network served in 2014 lived at or below the federal poverty level with a median annual household income of $9,175.
    http://www.feedingamerica.org/hunge...MI6Yn3rc-M1gIVQ5V-Ch2PSActEAAYASAAEgKjFvD_BwE
     
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    There is a distinction we should always remember- that being the difference between a hand-up that we give to those who normally stand on their own but have encountered some disaster or accident, and a hand-out that is sought by those who would prefer that others support them on an ongoing basis so they do not have to. Right now, I know a man who could be making $35 an hour everyday in a pretty easy job which he has the skill for- but will avoid work like it was the bubonic plague,and would rather eat scraps than earn money at something he didn't see as "fun". I won't subsidize that, and it is far more common than many think- But I will help the people who need the hand-up, knowing they would help me if our positions were reversed.
     
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