# Let's do perpetual

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1. ### EqualityWell-Known Member

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-1 + 1 = 0 loss

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Friction would cause the above to slow down. Hardly perpetual.

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The affect of friction energy loss will be nullified by the charge gain from the coils , compensating to put the energy back into the system .

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Actually, the opposite would occur. Making the electricity would slow down the moving parts even more. You don't know much about how things really work. That is why you get fooled by the perpetual motion bullshit.

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Fooled? I do not limit my thinking , the universe is perpetual in motion. Your limited thinking is not good enough to think of such things. To charge a battery by its own mechanical mechanism seems doable.

1 -1 + 1 -1 + 1 continuous/perpetual in thermodynamics after all.

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Friction (and heat loss) doesn't allow that. In real life (not in your fantasy perpetual motion world) it takes more electricity to recharge a battery than the battery can discharge (there is heat loss in any battery being charged). In addition, any kind of generator (i.e. magnet going through coils) takes more kinetic energy than it produces electrical energy (friction). It's not limited thinking. It's knowing how the real world works, and the scientific principles involved. It's impossible to recharge a battery with a generator that is powered by that battery. It just cannot work. The universe is not perpetual in motion. It will stop eventually. Yes, you are fooled because you don't know the basic chemical and physical principles involved. Learn them instead of studying this bullshit.

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Of course you just completely ignored harnessing space time energy at a supposed rate +2-1=+1

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Please show me the science behind that. Not your imagination, the actual physical principles involved. if you want to get that technical, your system wouldn't produce electricity. The coils need to be connected to produce a movement of electrons. Electricity needs a circuit. Your drawing doesn't indicate a full circuit.

learn the basic principles of making a generator before posting. You're embarassing yourself.

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The diagram is a rough sketch, have you ever tried draw a coil on Ms paint?

Of course there is a circuit, from each coil to the transformer in the clock. The coil energy will be amplified .

1-1+2=2

2-1+2=3

3-1+2=4

A cumulative energy device using gravity .

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Well if you want to believe we are limited and restricted , your choice. My simple equations demonstrate a possibility of breaking the laws of conservation.

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No they don't, entropy is your enemy.

That and mathematics and physics, not sure what you think you posted but it wasn't the key to free energy lol.

If I were you I'd stick to water divining.

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Entropy is not an enemy when the entropy has a capacity. You are practically saying a blank hard drive is a problem to fill with data . A rechargeable energy cell could be recharged as it does work. Loss should be able to be compensated for by amplification . Imagine a system where the output is 1 but 2 go back into the system by amplification.

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Then build one. It should be simple. The thing is, there is no way that it will produce more energy in electricity than the energy to lift the magnet. In other words, it's not going to produce much electricity. I doubt if it would even be detectable. Also, the electrons arent' going to accumulate. they are going to move back as soon as the magnet moves. That is how an AC generator works.

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/generators.html

P.S. sorry for limiting you with that think called science......

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….and are wrong as well as easily disproven.

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Woops!

I love Wyle E Coyote and Roadrunner physics!

But, I'm not going to come here and propose it as a solution to a serious problem.

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I'm not sure what you think you posted here but it's not perpetual motion lol.

I do have some magic beans though if you're interested?

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You forgot to draw in the squirrel!

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