Let's get a few things straight- Right Now.

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    (original)late Banned

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    Ever wonder why we have FEMA? It's because a devastated area often can't recover without help.

    We have eliminated a lot of systemic racism, not all, but the devastation remains, and it can stay that way forever.
     
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    We have been dumping money into poor minority communities for decades. We even have policies and opportunities specifically designed to help only minorities. Not exactly signs of a government and a society trying to systematically oppress minorities.

    It takes hard work and personal responsibility to break the cycle of poverty, unfortunately no amount of hand outs can teach that. But as you have said the devastation in these communities remains, and I would argue it is getting worse.

    The solution obviously is not assistance. We now have multiple generations that expect a certain level of well being from the government no matter what. The liberal mindset sometimes seems to be that minorities are not responsible for their actions because they are "victims". Despite the best intentions, minorities are not better off with assistance programs and the liberal coddling.

    Society's job is to guarantee the opportunity, it can not guarantee the outcome. Outcome is achieved by individual effort.

    Side note: I once had my poor toothless piece of white trash ex-brother-in-law tell me, "FEMA stands for free everything my a**." This was in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. I reminded him that the meal he was eating, the water he was drinking, the ice in his cooler, the check in his pocket, was all due to FEMA and the Govt. The point sailed right by him. You could have given that moron a million dollars and he would be flat broke in a year.
     
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    Poor areas of communities saw a big drop in funding in the 70s.

    In the 80s, the Feds reduced support several different ways.

    In the 90s, welfare was reduced.

    We have yet to get serious...

    Btw, not really into old stinky propaganda..
     
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    No reason to get emotional. Let us try to stay within the realm of logic :)

    Define serious

    Edit: Have you ever been poor?
     
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    What I have on offer is an explanation.

    Your local library can get you a copy if they don't already have one.

    I bought mine.
     
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    Pass :)
     
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    Not exactly a surprise..

    It's there if you ever want to know what you're talking about.
     
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    Or what the author's opinion is :)

    I had a good dusting of economic theory in my education in accounting. It only strengthened the biases I already had.

    I am always suspect of a liberal economist.
     
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    If anything is pathetic here it is the idea that the right wing is committing the violence.

    Isn't it odd how leftists ignore the prejudice and violence of Antifa while yowling about the violence and prejudice among people who have not, are not and probably will never say prejudicial things about others.

    The liberals' crackpot rush to indict others must begin with themselves, those brazen parasites who for years have sniveled we aren't doing ENOUGH...but don't we DARE do it for ourselves before we do it three times for them. Meanwhile, poverty is defined by the size of the high-def TV in the living room, or the bling worn to all those poverty marches.

    You can't wish away the failure and heartbreak which are results of Democrat efficiency. Nor can we wish away manifest corruption and embezzlement by so many, many Democrats. The UAW, for example, has self-confessed crook Gary Jones as their flagbearer in crime.

    He's not alone ---- Count the number of union people sent up for embezzlement: the Labor Dept. keeps records. The total is astounding. Unions are now about 99% Democrat after certain Beck rights suits and other fun court decisions stripping their right to steal dues from unwilling members. Conservatives got tired of the plunder.

    The party of high tech buys HOW many computer systems in a given decade, all because the last system couldn't do the job? Who's the incompetent, the one who can't buy appropriate software, or the one authorizing the purchase...again and again? Who's more prudent with money, the one blowing sewer and water replacement funds for politically correct nonsense, or the one who saved for the day century-old clay sewer pipes fell in and money WAS on hand to replace it? Think about that, next time you flush your commode.

    We can't wish away the ironclad fact that the Donks declared a war on poverty which has spent so much money that the cost of its administration alone could be divided among the recipients and leave them lifetime incomes. Overhead costs ALWAYS are the hidden factor in government contracts. The waste begins right there. It has a (D) after its name.

    We can't wish that away, either.
     
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    If they say the cost of living will go up, believe them. They probably caused it.
     
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    Easy, big guy, you only need to move the goalpost, not the whole damn continent...
     
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    Do you see macroeconomists under the bed at nite?
     
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    Not really sure what you are trying to ask
     
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    Not asking.

    But, to be fair, I don't accept what a conservative economist says, partly because recent work has been quite unkind to them.
     
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    One can hope. Traditionally this has NOT been the case. 97% of all brutality cases against police officers are either dismissed, or found not guilty.
     
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    We have FEMA because people waiting in line for days to get FEMA-distributed water are the most forgiving disaster victims we can find. Seems like a whole lot of private aid got trucked in where our beloved, all-efficient, one-size-fits-all-and-read-it-from-a-checklist style of gub-mint.

    Devastation remains from these riots. It wasn't conservatives who did it.
     
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    Specific objection?
     
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    I get it, you're running from the obvious as fast as your feet can go.
     
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    That's because 90% of the time it's a bullshit charge that should never have been brought.
     

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