Liberals are trying to link Project 25 to Trump

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I reject some of Project 25 plan, not all of it. I am not against private schools. I am for securing our border. I am against deporting all who came here illegally.
     
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    Most of what the left, liberals, and Dems say about Project 25 just ain't so. It basically is a very detailed suggestion for streamlining the administration and retaking power from the deep state. I fully agree with all but a couple of their suggestions. In any case it was published by the Heritage Foundation without any help or input from Trump, as you say.
     
  4. TomFitz

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    Evidenly you glossed over the prime reccomendation of Project 2025, to have the President sieze dictatorial powers by envoking the Insurrection Act.

    That's what Stephen Miller (worked in Trump Whote House, hangs with the henchmen at Mar A Lago, and wrote part of Project 2025), and Mike Flynn (the one who dallied with the Russians), wanted Trump to do on Jan 6th.

    Now that the Supreme Court has made the President above the law, there would be nothing to stop him from siezing power.

    You never even mentioned that.

    I doubt that you actually read it, or any other part of Project 2025.

    But never fear! Trump's GOP party platform promises not to tax tips!

    Now that's important.
     
  5. TomFitz

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    Every word is completely false,. Every one.

    First of all current and former Trump henchmen played pivitol roles in Project 2025. And Trump promoted it, before he decided to pretend not to.

    And, of course, you fell for Trump's lies (Trumpsters always prefer the Trump lie to uncomfortable facts).

    Calling for the usurption of power using the Insurrection Act doesn't bother you, apparantly.

    Replacing career civil serviants with flunkies loyal to the White House, thus undoing 150 years of professional civil service, and replacing them with political operatives and Trump loyalists instead of professionals doesn't bother you.
     
  6. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm all for getting rid of most of the dept of education. Every state has a dept of education. Let the Federal DOE set the guideline of what has to be taught and let the state DEC follow it through
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you mean to say you are not against public schools? Because Project 2025 calls for the Dept. of Ed to be abolished. It is the funding vehicle for public schools.
     
  8. Lee Atwater

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    I see you are all for abolishing a department without actually knowing what they do.
     
  10. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I really have no problem with this. It's only temporary and it would help prevent some of those riots where rioters were burning down whole neighborhoods. While CNN reporter said "Who said protestors had to be nice" while buildings were ablaze ahead of him.

    Generally, the law gives the president the power to send military forces to states to quell widespread public unrest and to support civilian law enforcement. But before invoking it, the president must first call for the “insurgents” to disperse, according to a Congressional Research Service report published in 2006. If stability is not restored, the president may then issue an executive order to deploy troops.

    The idea for the law was that there could be circumstances in which the local and state authorities were either unable or unwilling to maintain order, said Stephen I. Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas School of Law. In those cases, the military would be the backstop.
     
  11. TomFitz

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    Actually, most public schools get less than 10% of their funndingn from the Federal government. This is almost entirely in the form of extra aid to Title I schools and free and reduced cost meals.

    All this idiotic right wing BS about how the Federal government is "indoctinating" students is just that.

    Uninformed, paranoid right wing BS.
     
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  12. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every state has one, they can do what the Feds do. I have no problem getting rid of most of it.
     
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    I am mostly concerned about the authoritarian moral policing stuff like gutting access to contraception and IVF, and surveil women’s pregnancies etc. DeSantis and his bans on social media etc is an example of what might be coming across the board.
     
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    Are you really naive enough to believe that once Trump declares himself to be a dictator that he will ever give it up????????????

    Seriously????????

    I
     
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    Generally, Presidents did not exercise their authority to order out the National Guard to states, unless a state was in deliberate defiance of federal law (Orville Faubus and George Wallace).

    Trump is the recent exception. Ordering out the National Guard to attack a peaceful demonstration in Lafayette Squate, attacking American civilians who were not breaking the law. It was one of the many many shameful days in the Trump regieme. Not since the Bonus March in 1932 had there been a darker day (of course this was before his coup attempt on Jan 6th),

    Trump intends to do more of the same. He will try and use the military to put down any protest or opposition. He says so quite often.

    This is not "law and order". It's facism.
     
  16. Marine1

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    That's total bull crap. You show me where he said that
     
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    I have no problem with Project 25.
    Project 25 is not Trump's program.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just keep pointing out how the Left loves to give half truths.

    WASHINGTON — When federal police officers violently cleared protesters from the city's Lafayette Square in June 2020, they did it so a contractor could install fencing — not to let President Donald Trump hold a photo opportunity at a nearby church, an investigation by the Interior Department's inspector general has found.

    That finding, published Wednesday, is likely to surprise many critics of Trump, who have long asserted that the president or his attorney general ordered the operation to pave the way for an act of political theater. That is also the central allegation of a federal lawsuit by Black Lives Matter against the Justice Department.


    The report found no evidence of that, but did find that Attorney General William Barr urged officials to speed up the clearing process once Trump had decided to walk through the area that evening.

    The inspector general, Mark Greenblatt, identified problems with the clearing operation, including the likelihood that many protesters did not hear police warnings to disperse before the police moved in.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...lear-d-c-s-lafayette-park-protestors-n1270126
     
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    It's the blueprint for the next GOP president. The handlers don't care if Trump has his own ideas, which he probably doesn't anyway. Last time round the same gang bragged that they got Trump to try to address 65% of their blueprint item, but this new plan seems much more radical than the old one.
     
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    Constitutional rule is only "radical" to the Totalitarians within the Left.
     
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    But hear you say they are taking orders from trump:

    So which is it?
     
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    You seem to be naive enough to believe Trump will be a dictator. (For one day) Do you really think our military would stand back and allow that to happen? Really Tom? Wow. It seems the Left will believe anything and you guys are showing it in this thread.
     
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    Quite a few that you guys have put up doesn't seem to be as radical as your trying to make it look and I have showed you guys that, along with others.
     
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    You guys? I'm a 3rd party voter. Not sure what official policies you are referring to, but this blueprint is more radical than I have seen from any party before.
     
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    The Dept of Education is not anywhere close to funding public schools.
     

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