LIBS MAKE SANCTUARY CITIES & STATES. THEN CRY FOR FED HELP WHEN THEY GET THEM

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  1. Hell Raiser

    Hell Raiser Well-Known Member

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    the mayor of d.c. made a sanctuary city of d.c.. said ya'll come. now that texas is sending them there. she crys for the taxpayers to pay for them. claims d.c. doesn't have the money, and city on a down ward spiral because of them. "we say let them in, but only in your cities and states. she cries. double standard you think? :rock_slayer: :evil:
     
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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    Democrat Politicians have been using Federal Taxes to pay for Illegals to get millions of dollars worth of surgeries, through obamacare, and they've spent millions for sancturary cities, so Rapists, and human underage sex smugglers, Drug smugglers, little girl rapists, illegal immigrant cop killers, and illegal murderers.

    It's ok, it's not their money, it's yours! they simply call it the green new deal, and they throw anything they want into it.

    Don't worry Americans, you'll never know. hehe. They spend plenty of your tax payers money on sick evil things. corruption. Abortion. science for unborn babies parts. things like that. pushing drugs upon little children. threw schools, and the borders
     
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    Too bad Pelosi didn't use the national guard, on jan 6th, like the dc woman is asking for them.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you agree to allowing blue states and cities to keep all their taxes if the red areas could do the same?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blue states average income is higher. If they can't afford it, why do you think that the red states should be able to afford it?
     
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    That is my dream. Return power and money to the most local political entity possible. For the 2nd time, you and I are in complete agreement. I am very strong federalist. I would love to see the national government gutted of power and resources. I am glad and a little surprised to see that you are of the same timber. Kudos to you. Keep thinking like this and the left and right may one day unite to make a country that we can all live in.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn’t answer the question

    Would you like to try again
     
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    Don't taxpayers pay for........everything? You think Abbott pays out of his own pocket? LOL
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that many red states are welfare states, yes?
     
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    LoL. You think that would last once the federal gib spigot is shut off? Not likely. Human motivation being what it is, the eaters would migrate to greener pastures.... specifically blue states.

    In any event, that is irrelevant. What is relevant is your agreement with me that power and resources should be returned to the state and local level and taken from the national government. That is a very important point of agreement and should not be glossed over. This concept is the very core of my ideology and it seems to be for you as well. Am I correct that you agree with this philosophy?
     
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    Try answering my question. Your question asks for something which is a near impossibility. My question asks about something which is possible.

    Of course, the obvious solution is to stop them at the border so that no one is faced with the problem.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. 85% of US economic output is generated in blue metro areas, and this is true even inside red States like Texas where the wealth is generated in Houston, Dallas, Austin etc blue metro areas.
     
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    And were the 'wealth' of other, less desirable events occur also. Like crime and poverty.

    Let those areas that 'output' more wealth, and problems, pay for them. Other areas will equalize on their own level.
     
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    Its the nature of the beast (big cities). Always has been and always will be.

    They do, and they also pay for rural areas.
     
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    I believe in equality for all Americans and believe the federal government must do some things that the states cannot — that said most items need to be returned to the states and that includes the ability to place common sense regulations on firearms. States should have to honor contracts from another state but should not have to issue said contracts.

    So you believe there will be a population exodus from red states once federal funds are cut off?
     
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    And most of that welfare money goes for highway, interstate, rail and federal and state employee expenses..

    Start here!
    Pay scales
    AVG_MED BY CC month of January 2021.pdf - Google Drive

    And with a total population of
    Boils down to not actually knowing what goes on in low pop states!

    Here's what you get for your welfare contribution
     
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    Everybody pays for everybody. Many of the 'additional taxes' are not aimed at a geographical area, they are aimed at an economic class.
     
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    Their motto is that the hoards of illegal aliens are for thee not for me. They should bus the illegals to other elite liberal enclaves in addition to DC.
     
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    Sanctuary cities not enjoying being sanctuaries.

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    "To the great consternation of leftist Democrat mayors in the northeast, the governors of Texas and Arizona continue to send busloads of illegal migrants to New York and Washington to lessen the burdens on their states and draw more attention to the Biden border crisis. This has put the municipal governments of these self-defined sanctuary cities in a bit of a tough position politically. They are supposed to represent bastions of hope for the migrants and freedom from the “oppression” of ICE and the Border Patrol. But now that the migrants are arriving it’s becoming clear that this is a problem that the mayors were not prepared to handle. These so-called sanctuary city claims were clearly more of a case of virtue signaling than anything else, but when the cost of invoking such policies began to rise, the backlash came quickly."

    HAHAHAHAHA!
     
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    Second request for the National Guard to be deployed in Washington, D.C. is denied

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    'Mayor Muriel Bow-wowser likes to boast that Washington, D.C. is a sanctuary city. Yet, once she is taken up on her claim and a few buses of illegal migrants are dropped off in her city, she cries out for help from the Department of Defense. What’s up with that, Muriel?'

    She asked, they said NO.
    She asked again, they said NO, again.

    "Bowser’s requests play into a complaint the U.S. military officials have uttered privately over the past few years. They are being used for tasks that should be done by civilian agencies. Calling up the National Guard in a domestic situation like this should be a last resort type of action. They aren’t a welcoming committee.'

    She sure loved to virtue signal about what a great "sanctuary city" they were running, before the buses rolled up.

    'If it was not so irritating to those of us who live in a border state it would be almost comical to see the pearl clutching going on over migrants arriving in an orderly fashion on buses from Texas and Arizona. Texas has sent about 7500 migrants so far to D.C. The purpose of the buses is to highlight the real humanitarian crisis brought on by the Biden border crisis. The humanitarian crisis on the border in Texas and Arizona is chaotic and dangerous. Governors Abbott and Ducey are making the point that Texas and Arizona should not be in a position to handle the Biden border crisis alone. Illegal migration is overwhelming border communities and law enforcement, including Border Patrol agents, because small towns are not equipped to handle such floods of people into their towns. There are not enough shelters or personnel on the ground to handle it. Biden’s border crisis is ok for Texans to deal with but not for those in Washington, D.C., apparently.'
     
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    HOW IT STARTED:

    “We are a city that is a sanctuary city. We have immigrants from all over the world who call Chicago their home. They’ll continue to do that, and we’re going to continue to make sure that this is truly a welcoming community for those immigrants and we want them to come to the city of Chicago.”

    “Chicago Mayor-elect Lori Lightfoot Says Immigrants ‘Welcome’ Despite Donald Trump’s Remarks on Sanctuary Cities,” Newsweek, April 13th, 2019.

    How it’s going: Texas sends buses of migrants to Chicago for first time, dropped off at train station.

    —Fox News, tonight.

    Earlier: Sanctuary Cities Seethe as Illegal Immigrants Actually Arrive.

    'The surest sign that public policies are simply virtue signals is when the messages don’t cost anything. The easiest way to tell when that signal starts to fail is to watch politicians flounder as the costs start to rise and voters demand relief.'

    Virtue Signal for free

    'For years it has been free for deep-blue cities to proclaim themselves “sanctuaries” for illegal immigrants. That’s changing now that voters want some sanctuary for themselves.'

    'Changes like this happen when voters realize the virtue signals actually entail serious costs—and that they will have to pay them. That is exactly what’s happening in New York City and Washington D.C. now that Texas governor Greg Abbott is sending those cities a few busloads of illegal immigrants from his state.'

    'These progressive bastions were silent when the Biden administration flew plane loads of illegal immigrants to suburban airports in the middle of the night. TV coverage was prohibited, and the arrivals were secretly dispersed. Abbott’s buses, by contrast, arrive downtown greeted by local TV crews. Now you can hear the politicians screech.'

    'Lightfoot’s reaction to her bluff being called will be fun to watch.'

    https://instapundit.com/540202/
     
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    Sorry no double standard since their being attacked.
     

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