llinois officer responds to gunfire, fatally shoots security guard

And he’ll walk because “he was afraid for his life”, aka the free get out of jail card every cop has.

 

I know you badly want him to be guilty and go to jail, but doing away with due process can only lead to more people getting shot by the cops. Why not execute the guilty on the spot?

 

The security guard was in the wrong -- he should have not held the man at gun point and he should have complied with law enforcement.

Good job by the police, you could never be too careful around certain groups of people.

 

Where am I saying he shouldn’t have a trial? Given the evidence of the past few years, there’s a good chance a DA won’t even charge him.

 

Should he have held the guy, who had just shot a number of people, at fingerpoint?

What was he supposed to comply with? The police didn’t give him any instructions, they immediately shot him.

 

Hard to say at this point. Its a good thing that emotional reactions are not what makes a man guilty. I have been in shooting competitions where you are being timed and have to avoid shooting friendlies. I could not imagine having to do it in real life.

 

In real life, you would be prosecuted for shooting a security guard doing their job.

 

He should have known that once police came on the scene, they would have justified reasons to be fearful of him -- when the police arrived, he should have dropped his weapon, laid down face first on the ground with his hands out to make sure the police officers knew he was not a threat.

Police have reason to be fearful of blacks because of black on black crime, in fact, the stats themselves basically prove why cops should fear for their life when encountering any black, especially an armed one.

 

Interesting so you are saying his race was the reason why he was shot?

 

This happened in real like and the officer will have to answer for his actions.I will be the first to support prison for cops who abuse their power. (After being found guilty, of course)

 

Your position is illogical because only one percent of black people are convicted of killing anyone each year. It might be less than 1 percent. That means that 99 percent have not. Your stats grossly exaggerate the need for fear and denigrate innocent people.

 

"The police officer who fatally shot a black armed security guard as he held down a gunman outside a bar in Chicago’s suburbs on Sunday, had told the guard to drop his gun and get on the ground before ultimately firing his weapon, according to witnesses cited by Illinois State Police."

"According to the release, a Midlothian officer encountered Roberson “with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard, armed with a gun in the west parking lot.” An attorney representing Roberson’s family said Roberson was wearing a hat with “security” across the front."

"One of the two Midlothian officers gave “multiple verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the ground” before shooting Roberson, witnesses said."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/officer-...ave-verbal-commands-to-drop-gun-witnesses-say

 

but when a policeman shoots and kills someone, then that whole due process is moot for the one killed, and all the policeman has to say is he feared for his life.

 

again, you are arguing for due process as defined by the law, which we all agree on. the argument you are avoiding is when someone is killed by police, and they claim, feared for my life, then the person killed, their due process is moot.

 

His race was not the reason why he was shot -- his race was the reason for his disrespect and disregard of law enforcement -- his race was probably what made him feel he didn't have to comply with police commands

It is no mystery that most blacks (Not all, Candace Owens is a good black) have no respect for our laws and our way of life

 

What disrespect and disregard?

The police immediately shot him upon arrival while he was just doing his job.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/us/security-officer-police-shooting-suburban-chicago/index.html

also
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/6672...MsjDq47Fk9r_xtcmip47Shbnj_7gF5mO-b4BW-j5_SlEU

Illinois Security Guard Uniform Statutes state that

I don't know how it is in the states, but when I used to work as a security guard we ALWAYS had to wear uniforms that had Security on the back and if I was doing night patrols I absolutely HAD to wear a reflective safety vest. As I see they now come in Hi-Vis (bright orange being one of the colors) it's highly likely he would have been wearing it.

Sounds like the cop jumped the gun (so to speak)

 

"An autopsy Monday found Roberson died of multiple gunshot wounds and his death was ruled a homicide, according to the medical examiner’s office.

Maybe the cop will be charged.

 

He was shot multiple times while other patrons were screaming "He's a security guard".

"Everybody is screaming out, 'He's a security guard,'" Harris said. "Just waiting on the police to get there."

An autopsy Monday found Roberson died of multiple gunshot wounds and his death was ruled a homicide, according to the medical examiner’s office.

An accident?

 

And I will be the first to support prison for abuse of power. You are confusing avoidance with wanting facts before jumping to conclusions.

 

i have not jumped to any conclusions.

 

Oh,ok mistaken identity?

 

Are you talking about the security guard that got killed?

 

According to TV accounts and statements from friends and family, he was a musician in church and wanted to be a cop.

 

So what? He is black and most likely couldn't be a cop because he is a criminal