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  1. yguy

    yguy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I'll take this as a concession of the point.
    The US has never been a theocracy, and every citizen worthy of the name knows it.
    is oxymoronic. What you want isn't charity, it's access to people's bank accounts whether they like it or not.
     
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    Definitely. But most people in USA share principles common in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Charity is an obligation.
     
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    No, 'charity' is not an obligation, otherwise it's not 'charity'.

    Many people tithe through their religious affiliations. That's not 'charity'. Many people voluntarily donate goods or money to organizations that in turn do good deeds, but people are not obligated to donate.

    Charity, true charity, is giving of one's self, monitarily or otherwise, to someone they have no obligation to assist, nor for recognition or recompense.

    Perhaps that is where your disconnect lies.
     
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    Indeed, Tsdakah -- charity in Hebrew is an obligation like tax.

    Christianity and Islam have similar laws.
     
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    Pictures or it didn't happen...
     
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    From the perspective of the parasitically inclined that's true enough. Why it would be so from those with other inclinations I have no idea.
     
  7. CCitizen

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    This is eliminationist rhetoric about tens of millions people with mental disability.
     
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    No, it's about parasites; so anyone who isn't has no cause to be offended.
     
  9. CCitizen

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    Humans who can not produce should not be subject to eliminationist rhetoric and discrimination. In Canada and Scandinavia, even the worst offenders have inalienable rights.
     
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    Yeah, well the only way you're gonna avoid being subjected to my rhetoric is if I get banned or you put me on ignore; so you might as well spare us all the public whining.
     
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    Sadly most Americans share this attitude in one way or another. This is why in USA there is little help for people in need.
     
  12. Collateral Damage

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    How many times must we have this conversation? There is help, both via involuntary taxation, and by voluntary charity.

    Perhaps it's not to your liking, but it is there. It seems you bring this up numerous times, always from the perspective that someone is not 'taking care of you'. What would satisfy you? How much is 'enough'? Do you consider the cost to others, both monetary as well as time, knowledge, and willingness? For even the most physically disabled, there are options to do productive things, help others, instead of a constant 'what about me' position. No one owes you life on a silver platter. You want help, reach out for it. Add some self-help, instead of using your position to preach to people 'poor, poor me'.
     

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