Low-Income Renters Face Eviction, Thanks to the Government Shutdown

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That really does not sound very likely.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The biggest American white man myth


    Equal Opportunity, Our National Myth

    Plenty more.

    I keep hearing people asking why is it that white people have this big downer at middle age and not black. Of course now it is even worse, going off on drugs, alcoholism or even suicide, They believe the difference between the black and white attitude at middle age is because blacks never believed the myth that everyone had equal opportunity so do not believe it is any thing personal.
     
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    AFAIK, it's been a long long time since there was a D governor.
    Those luxury rental units were not approved by a D governor. Probably not a D majority legislature either.

    So that means, R's are socialist also. You word not mine. People use socialist word as a catch all that really means nothing in today's world.
    Providing low income housing is a need, for that keeps many off the streets. They just don't need to be luxury rentals.
     
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  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Because to live in a decent civilized country, that has the most wealth on earth, it makes sense to not have people living in the streets, scavenging for food from dumpsters, etc.
    Most Americans don't want 3rd world type conditions because they are poor.
    Or a 2 class society, as we've been getting to. The rich elite and the homeless poor. Social programs at least put the poor off the streets.
     
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    it is. the poor and middle class didn't get the same tax breaks.

    I am quite demonstrably correct, as usual.
     
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    Whatever. Your opinion is worthless.
     
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    I notice in the chart you posted middle class oncome went up whilr reagan was president

    The poor did not rise because they are tethered to the welfare system

    As for tax breaks the poor have no income so reagan could not cut taxes they were not paying to begin with

    Except he did in a way by agreeing to the stupid unEarned Income Tax Credit
     
  8. tomfoo13ry

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    This just doesn't sound correct to me. I mean, if it's true then I'm against it but to be honest it sounds like a tall tale.

    Are you sure you didn't see the Studio price and thought it was for the two-bedroom? I know apartment complexes perpetuate this confusion on purpose. You'll see some great apartment advertised as "Starting at $800!" and then it turns out that the $800 apartments are holes in the wall while the apartments featured in their ads are twice as much. Pretty common. Even then they'll tack on an extra hundred or two for various "services" above the quoted "rental price".
     
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    no, it has remained flat for the past 40 years.
    the poor didn't rise, because of Reagans disastrous tax policies.
    the poor of course pay taxes.
    he did not. as a direct result of his tax policies, wealth distribution shifted DRASTICALLY from the middle class and poor, to the richest 1%.
     
  10. Texas Republican

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    The story is true. It happened in 2017.
     
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    Okay. You'll have to excuse me if I remain skeptical, though.
     
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    Of course.
     
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    Welfare also stabilizes society. In a long run, it’s cheaper to provide housing, food assistance and health care instead of dealing with mass uprising and damaging riots.
    In a way, welfare is a bribe to the poor (and those who don’t want to work) to sit put in exchange for some basic assistance.

    I hate welfare, but it is a necessary evil.
     
  14. wgabrie

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    Well, in defense of Texas Republican, there are a number of poor who probably need more than a one room shack, families for instance. They might need multiple bedrooms (2+), and luxury apartments might be the only housing available with multiple rooms.
     
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    So you really think it fair to take some of my hard earned money and give it to people who are unwilling to work?
     
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    Yes. It's called living in a civilized country, state, county, city, township.

    And I'll take your unwilling to work as one who really isn't up on who consumes most of welfare/social/crutch programs.
    But only knows what fake media tells you.

    The vast majority on gov't help programs, actually work at low paying jobs that keep them below the poverty level. Because many companies won't pay enough to support people.
     
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    Well if low income housing wasn't built by private individuals applying for federal programs and federal tax cuts you might be right.

    https://www.tsahc.org/blog/post/who-really-pays-for-affordable-housing
     
  18. Richard The Last

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    Not really sure how you see taking my hard earned money and giving it to someone else as civilized.
    I know exactly who is consuming most welfare/social programs. They are people like my neighbors who had five adults and 7 children living in one house with not a single job among them. But they did manage to drive three cars, smoke, talk on cell phones and get busted for meth.
    I can take you on a tour of the low income apartments near where I live and show you person after person who does nothing but draw a "government check".
     
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    Low-Income Housing Tax Credit Program

    Created by the Tax Reform Act of 1986, the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) program is the most utilized mechanism for financing affordable housing development. It works by letting private investors (corporations or individuals) purchase tax credits that reduce their tax liability. The money they use to purchase tax credits provides equity to developers to build and preserve affordable housing.

    In Texas, the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA) administers the process for awarding tax credits to developers. TDHCA is responsible for ensuring that developers provide the housing they promised when applying for tax credits.

    The R party, I assume, of Texas, approved the tax credits for luxury low income rentals, yes?

    1986, Reagan in WH, R controlled Senate. Those socialist R's put in the program.
    Reagan, isn't he like the hero of today's R party?
     
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    I see it as civilized as those 5 adults and 7 children aren't in the streets pooping in them. They aren't in your dumpster searching for food, and they aren't breaking into your home to steal to survive.

    Yes, there are those who do not work.
    And it must be lovely having 5 adults and 7 children in one house. Those poor live the life of luxury, eh?

    I will still stand by my assumption, for now, that most of the social program money's goes to those working but not earning enough.
    I have not looked up the data, so it is my opinion.
     
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    And there would be more money for your social programs being used by the working poor if the "choosing to not work" neighbors of mine were forced to do something.
     
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    May I be the first to congratulate your compassion and further suggest you donate your wages to those unfortunate in the op to pay their rent.
     
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    But I'm sure they still have cell phones and buy cigarettes, drink and drugs.
     
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    I think every able bodied person should have to work for any benefits they get.
    I also think, every able bodied person should only be able to be on said benefits for a limited time. They need to find a way to improve their skills to reach higher level paying jobs.
    But with that great recession we had, those jobs were not there. Things have changed and now there are jobs available.
     
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    I think on some level you and I are in agreement. I really have no problem helping the truly needy. I just feel a tough, strict set of standards needs to be implemented within our governmental support system that keeps those who would abuse the system from doing so.
     
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