Lt. Col. Vindman didn't think the call was so perfect.

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Ah, the trappings argument. Isn't that what democrats do? Accuse others of "disloyalty"? Or wait, they should just be called what? Deplorable? We've seen this movie from your team before.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The difference being............Don's sycophants accuse loyal Americans of disloyalty to Don when they are being loyal to the country...........while Dems point out Don's disloyalty to the country.
    Glad I could clear that up for you as you often appear to be confused on all manner of things.
     
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    /First they claim how bad Fox is. Then when something happens which benefits them, they claim Fox has turned on Trump or whoever. If they would actually listen to Fox, they would notice that Fox is biased, but they still talk about both sides. That never happens with MSNBC. It is always anti-Trump or anti-republican.
     
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    "How many freaking people were listening to President Trump's phone call to the Ukrainian President" … and how many advised him not to make it?
     
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    Lt. Col. Vindman didn't think the call was so perfect.

    His opinion is the same as that of any other never Trumper. I don't care what he thinks.
     
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    Why wouldn't a President call a newly elected head of state and congratulate him or her ?
    It's SOP.

    The question is, who was first to bring up the Javelin missiles, Trump or Zelensky ?

    If it was Zelensky then all we are seeing is just another side effect of TDS, just another Democrat TDS witch hunt.

    The damage the whiny Democrats are doing to the office of the Presidency will hurt America for decades or longer.
    Foreign leaders will be to scared to talk to the President of the United States knowing that their conversations will be made public.
     
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    Laughable. I haven't seen a democrat who was in it for the country in decades. But nice try...
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have known for quite some time Trumpette's would rather not be faced with the truth.
    The 5 public confirmations of a quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine

    1) Alexander Vindman..........he stated Sondland started to speak about Ukraine delivering specific investigations to secure a meeting with President Bonespur.

    2) William B. Taylor.......he testified last week that he was informed that Sondland had explicitly conveyed a quid pro quo involving hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to another top Ukrainian official.

    3) Gordon Sondland............Sondland’s attorney told the Wall Street Journal that Sondland testified to some kind of a quid pro quo. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) also said Sondland described a quid pro quo to him.

    4) Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)..........The same day as his Wall Street Journal interview, Johnson told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that Baby Donald conveyed a quid pro quo to Johnson on the phone.

    5) Mick Mulvaney..........who admitted to the quid pro quo, telling people to "get over it."




     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/politics/alexander-vindman-testimony-republicans/index.html

    "The appalling GOP attacks on a US military officer's patriotism are next-level"

    The smear campaign against another witness has started. How low will the GOP sink?
     
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    Although he has my utmost respect for his service, his purple heart has zilch to do with his qualifications. For that matter, a Lt Col is not all that high a rank. Someone with that high a qualifications would normally do better. It does make me suspicious about what he did that kept him down.
     
  13. Lee Atwater

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    Faux was built for the kind of smear campaign they are executing on Vindman for the benefit of the Bigot-in-Chief.
     
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    Fox has nothing to do with what I posted. I am visiting at someone else's house and have not seen Fox for over a week. Obviously, a purple heart qualifies you for nothing. A person with Vindman's qualifications should have been promoted below the zone to full colonel. The fact that he has not would make me wonder what has held him back.

    Over the years I have worked with a number of what could be called whistle blowers. Some were more a pain in the butt than actually having anything to contribute. They were looking for attention.

    Maybe what Vindman has to say is worthwhile. Just given the circumstances, I have reservations. We shall see what we shall see.
     
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    A former Republican wrote a book about Trump called

    "Everything Trump Touches DIES"

    Apt title
     
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    Vindman is a FIRST HAND witness to "the phone call" so of course he must be attacked and besmirched
     
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    NYT reporting Fake News?
    Surely not! ;-)
     
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    He added nothing that wasn't in the public record, other than feelings
     
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    A no bird colonel.
     
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    You have a transcript of his testimony?

    No?

    How would you know what he added then?
     
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    It's been posted on the forum already.
     
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    Quid pro quo is an opinion in this case, not a fact. You can do better than that.
     
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    Yes, which leaves me flummoxed on what possible advantage there is in bringing in witnesses to a phone call in which we've had the transcript to for weeks.
     
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    His opinon to me seems to be just as valid or invalid as every other person who've read the transcript of the call, making the point of his testimony seemingly a lot less fact finding and a lot more firing up the loony left base.
     
  25. Lee Atwater

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    Here is your answer.

    "His opinon to me seems to be just as valid or invalid as every other person who've read the transcript of the call, making the point of his testimony seemingly a lot less fact finding and a lot more firing up the loony left base."

    Some people, I won't say who, even after they have read the transcript seem to be having difficulty accepting what Don did was detrimental to our national security, an abuse of power, and illegal. Some people, I won't say who, think those who do accept those facts are the "loony left base." Always glad to clear up your confusion.
     

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