Please stop trying to twist the truth into some sort of anti-Semitic fable. Old Testament and New Testament do not instruct the reader to kill non-Jews or non-Christians and enslave the ones not killed. Jews own Israel. If it is OK for those muslims to have Mecca and Medina and 97% of the physical land that is the Middle East, then it is perfectly fine for Jews to own 3% and Jerusalem. Why in the world would you think it's fine for muslims to own land but not Jews, unless you just hate Jews? Israel absolutely supports human progress. She promotes technology, education, medicine, invention, human dignity, and equal rights. Many of the political parties in Israel are muslim-only parties. Why do you not cry for the Jews who have been attacked by 15,000 missiles and mortars? Is it because you are fine with Jews dying and the hand of radical islam?
Taqiyyah is a shi'ite doctrine mostly, it was aimed at protecting the shi'ite minorities in sunni majority countries. It is only to be used in life or death situations and is mostly frowned on even then. There is NO requrement for Muslims to lie to non-muslims unless it is to save their lives. - - - Updated - - - Perhaps you might like to respond to what was actually said rather than what the voices in your mind say was said?
I did. Sorry reading comprehension and following a thread are a bit of a struggle for you. Have the voices in your head call the voices in my head and perhaps my voices can suggest some medicine for your struggles with following a conversation.
How about you actually read what I wrote and then respond instead of twisting the truth in some sort of anti-Arab fable. So, because I oppose the Israeli Government policy of violence and oppression I must hate all Jews and support the hand of radical Islam, eh? Of course, it makes total sense. It's not like I could just be against government violence and oppression and not an entire ethnic group of mostly innocent people. Please don't twist every one of my words around. Typical accusations of Antisemitism. Simple thinking and indoctrination is the true cause of the devolution of humanity and a true blight on our species. Let me re-elaborate everything I wrote. Unlike some people who generalize entire races or creeds, I place no relevance on assumptions of people because they belong to a particular group. I place the same standards on both sides rather than ignore the acts of one and despise the other. I cry for the deaths of all sides as they are unnecessary and atrocious. I think it's perfectly fine for Israel to own land, though I wish they would have done it justly by labor and effort rather than force and thievery. I support Palestinian democracy and freedom and state settlement. I oppose the Israeli government because it refuses to support peace and cooperation. I support what objectively can be seen as favorable for all of humanity. Government-forced submission inevitably leads to popular resentment and retaliation from the opposing side. The Israeli government's policy of aggression, terrorism, and Arab oppression only inflames Arab terrorism, hatred and retaliation. Violence leads to more violence, bloodshed to more bloodshed, destruction to more destruction. Fire leads to more fire. It is a never ending cycle. Darkness can't drive out darkness, only light can do that. The way to stop terrorism is to stop participating in it. The only way to stop the chaos of war is if one of the participating parties accepts the others call to step above the darkness and support peace, the only solution favorable to humanity as a whole. It is a solution the Israeli government has violated since its formation by ignoring international law and disobeying agreed upon peace treaties and resolutions. Israel forced the Palestinians to move from their homes onto ghastly tent villages in a Modern age which claims to place value on civility and the principles of justice and condemns corruption and violence, while we truly live in a time of tribal nationalism in which warring states operate based on national self-interest while government officials preach hypocrisy and ignore the atrocities committed by their own side. Israel continues to wage war for the sake of power while claiming to act for national defense. It has the upper hand yet refuses to cooperate. With powerful allies an Israeli nation of great influence has fallen to corruption and uses its power for injustice. The Israeli government continues to expand and oppresses the occupants of Gaza and the West Bank, it wages airstrikes that kill civilians and fires weapons that kill Palestinian protesters and dissidents. It continues to fight violence with violence, a method that alone only leads to more violence. The violence upon violence leads to suicide bombings, Palestinian missile strikes, and Palestinian terrorism. Terrorism and hatred that could all cease if Israel agreed to support peace and Arab freedom. Israel does not support human progress just as the actions of Hamas and the hand of radical Islam does not. Violence has always been, nationalism and tribalism has always been. Fighting fire with fire with no end is the opposite of progress; it is destruction. Oppressing and killing people because they are in the way and do not coincide with national interests is a striking example of total disregard for the value of human life. Israel doesn't support the equal rights of Palestinians, it doesn't allow them dignity. Propped up by its powerful United States ally it merely abides by the Western power's demands and its own national self-interest. "She" promotes violence and aggression, tribal nationalism and negligence. Israel is heavily detrimental to human rights and human well-being and is one of the greatest threats to peace. When fire is fought with fire the problems still remain heavy, human flaws are still illustrated abhorrently, nothing is resolved, nothing is gained. It gets us nowhere. A world at war with itself is not fit to survive and does the opposite of promote the best interests of the human species. We cannot progress until we stop slaughtering each other and attacking one another for the sake of power. We cannot evolve unless we step above our primitive petty nationalism. We cannot progress as a species unless we step above our self-interests and cooperate to promote the best interests of all of humanity. So, to sum it up, I think it's perfectly fine if the Israeli people keep their state if they illustrate proper merit, not if they retain it by carnage and destruction. I support the idea of an Israeli state, but also the ideas of human rights and freedom, a dilemma that leads me to oppose the aggressive, oppressive, and murderous Israeli government policy. I support human rights and peace, which leads me to oppose the violent retaliation of Hamas but which also allows me to see this raging revenge as only natural and acts that can only be stopped when an agreed upon and upheld peaceful settlement is reached and the light drives out the darkness of violence upon violence.
Lying is not a sin in Islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lying about Islam Sat, Mar 1 2003 at 10:11 pm http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/55210.htm ~By STEPHEN SCHWARTZ AMERICANS have a lot to learn about Islam - even in the aftermath of the horrors of 9/11. While the atrocities of that day provided a wake-up call about terrorism, our political and media elites continue to show us that they haven't done their homework on the religious background of al Qaeda - and are likely not to. An exceptionally irritating example of this came to light when a USA Today "Q&A on Islam and Arab Americans" appeared as a mass mailing around the country. Although the flier bore the USA Today logo, a call to the newspaper elicited the claim that the logo was used without its permission, even though the content of the flyer appeared on the paper's Web site. USA Today staffers doubtless thought they were doing Muslims and non-Muslims in America a favor by presenting a warm and fuzzy picture of the situation inside world Islam. But the leaflet was sent out by the "International Institute of Islamic Thought" (IIIT) in Herndon, Va., one of a group of Muslim organizations raided by federal authorities in an antiterrorism investigation last year. IIIT advocates for the Wahhabi sect of Islam, the most extreme, separatist and violent trend in the faith of Mohammed. Wahhabism is the official religion in Saudi Arabia. Saudi oil royalties are spent to spread Wahhabism throughout the world - including right here in America. We shouldn't be surprised, then, at how the newspaper, and the leaflet, answered the question, What is jihad? "Jihad does not mean 'holy war.' Literally, jihad in Arabic means to strive, struggle and exert effort. It is a central and broad Islamic concept that includes struggle against evil inclinations within oneself, struggle to improve the quality of life in society, struggle in the battlefield for self-defense or fighting against tyranny or oppression." Here we have the money quote: "Jihad does not mean 'holy war.' " A few lines later, however, jihad does include "struggle in the battlefield." The truth is, military jihad cannot be written out of Islam. The prophet Mohammed himself led armies. This answer would be more honest if it said, "Jihad cannot be reduced to the idea of 'holy war.'" But IIIT seeks only to escape responsibility for the Wahhabi 'jihad,' which has been terroristic since the founding of the Wahhabi cult in central Arabia 250 years ago. Wahhabism is murderous in its attacks on non-Wahhabi Muslims, especially the Shi'as who comprise a majority in Iraq and the oil-rich Saudi eastern province, as well as in Iran. Just last week, nine Shi'a Muslims were murdered in Pakistan. The finger of blame has been pointed at Lashkar i Janghvi, the same Wahhabi terror gang that killed American reporter Daniel Pearl. (Indeed, Pearl was among the few victims of Lashkar i Janghvi who was not a Muslim.) The "Q&A" that first appeared in USA Today and has been recycled by IIIT is part of a not-so-sophisticated campaign to convince Americans that there is only one Islam, represented by Saudi-Wahhabism, that it has nothing to do with terror, and, above all, that other forms of Islam, such as Shi'ism or Sufism, the spiritual form of Islam, do not exist or are unworthy of notice in the West. This is especially pernicious as the United States solicits allies among Shi'a Muslims in Iraq, who yearn for liberation from the bloody hands of Saddam Hussein. Over the weekend, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul D. Wolfowitz met with Shi'a Muslims in Michigan who stressed their hatred of Saddam and their desire to see the United States take firm action. One said, "It is not a very good idea to wait much longer." In New York, Shi'a Muslims will hold their annual religious procession on March 9. They will proclaim their loyalty to America and their hatred of Saddam, of Wahhabism and of terrorism. In addition, I and others who work closely with dissident Saudi subjects increasingly hear that restive young people in the kingdom, rather than supporting Osama bin Laden as the Saudi rulers claim, are turning to the peaceful and meditative way of Sufism as a form of opposition to the extremist form of Islam that has a grip on their country. But Shi'ism and Sufism are absent from the USA Today Q&A. It's bad enough that Saudi money has enabled Wahhabis to take over 70-80 percent of American mosques. But when major American media like USA Today cover for this, it's a disgrace - and a threat. Stephen Schwartz is the author of "The Two Faces of Islam: The House of Sa'ud From Tradition to Terror" and senior policy analyst at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies in Washington, D.C.
Your posts well hide your anti-Semitic position, but not completely. Israel has every right to her location and existence, and the only things she has ever done that would be considered aggressive to peoples have always been in a response to arab aggression. The Israeli government and the Jewish people are not murderous and oppressive as you so dishonestly portray. Hamas does not "Retaliate" as your lies say; but in fact they are the initial aggressor and initiate all violence in the Middle East. I grew up during the times of the Munich Massacre and Entebe and remember groups like PLO for their true intentions. Unlike you, I do not try to dishonestly paint these arabs as peaceful people merely looking for a homeland.
Lying is indeed a sin in Islam: The Quran states: And do not say that of which you have no knowledge. (Quran 17:36) further: Source
Post From Faith Freedom org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran5.html Al-taqiyya and dissimulation are words used for a practice of Muslims blatantly lying to non-Muslims. All but some of the most fundamental Muslims consider the act of Al-taqiyya or lying to non-Muslims to be a good work. This is very important when one remembers that, in Islam, salvation is determined by good works. This means that a Muslim lying to a non-Muslim is that Muslim doing a good work to earn salvation. It is almost equivalent to a Christian accepting Jesus as his savior. One of the big differences is that a Christian only needs to accept Jesus as his savior once to become saved forever but a Muslim must do his good works consistently and repeatedly to earn his salvation with the except of the greatest work of dying while fighting non-Muslims. This is particularly important when one realizes that the only work which can guarantee salvation for a Muslim is to wage war against and kill non-Muslims or at least support those who do wage war against and kill non-Muslims. It is only logical that to lie in support of a war against non-Muslims could guarantee salvation for a Muslim because it would be considered supporting the war. This is a very powerful motivation for any Muslim to lie to any non-Muslim for any reason but especially when concerning any war or military effort against non-Muslims. I have learned that, for this reason, it is very common practice for Muslims, especially leaders, to lie about the war against non-Muslims. These lies come in many forms such as denying that Islam is a war against non-Muslims, that the Koran teaches salvation through fighting and killing non-Muslims, feigning sympathy for the US concerning 9/11, or Muslim countries denying that they have military intentions against Israel, the US, or other non-Muslim countries. This raises a number or questions. Are the Muslim peace protestors in the US actually using Al-taqiyya or dissimulation to earn their salvation by lying and trying to interfere with the US and Israel's efforts to defend themselves? Is the Muslim sympathy for the US concerning 9/11 Al-taqiyya earning the salvation of the Muslims by feigning sympathy for the US? Are the Muslim leaders and official speakers using Al-taqiyya to earn salvation by lying to the US media about them fighting because they are "being oppressed by Israel" when there are plenty of Muslims who are citizens in Israel, have good jobs, have their own prosperous businesses, who vote, and are even in the Israeli government? I recently watched a ABC 20/20 news show by Barbara Walters where she went to Saudi Arabia to confront different people there about text which had been uncovered in public school books which taught hatred and murder of non-Muslims but specifically Jews. I watched as every Muslim male and almost every Muslim female she sat down with to interview blatantly lied about what the Koran says concerning war, hatred, and murdering towards the Jews. Not one of them told the truth. This was clearly Al-taqiyya. Interestingly, she kept querying about certain terms which stated that Jews would hide behind the trees and the trees would call out to the Muslims, "A Jew is hiding behind me, come and kill him." Not one of the Muslims interviewed told her about the Muslim prophesy concerning the end times (see my page "Koran and Bible Prophesy") where it is said that the Jews and Christians will hide behind the trees and rocks and that the trees and rocks will cry out, "A Jew or a Christian is hiding behind me, come and kill him." Instead, they ALL lied to her about Islam being a religion of peace except for three young radicals who kind of half admitted that Islam and the Koran have an agenda of war and murder. But even they were very careful to tone the militant talk down from what the Koran really says and is preached by the orthodox or fundamentalist Muslims. It should be noted that I have read on some Muslim sites that a few more fundamental Muslim sites do not commit dissimulation, are open about the warrior mentality of Islam, and are proud that they do not dissemble or lie. But my understanding is that this is only the most "radical" or orthodox Muslims. It seems that the vast majority of Muslims are actually proud that they do dissemble or lie. The problem is, how can you tell which ones are not lying to you if you don't know the Koran and Islam? Basically, you can't believe the few because of the many. It is my opinion that the only Muslims a non-Muslim can believe about anything are the fundamentalist Muslims who openly admit that Islam is a warrior religion and that they are required to destroy all non-Muslims. Even then, we need to be careful. In summary, Al-taqiyya and dissimulation mean that no non-Muslim can believe anything told to them by any Muslim especially if it has to do with the Koran's perpetual Jihad against all non-Muslims. For that Muslim to lie to you is for that Muslim to do a good work towards earning salvation. _________________ Do you know of any good links about Islam? Suggest them to me for the Internet Toolbox for Islam-critics, and inform me about links not working. Last edited by Frodo Baggins on Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:43 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top View user's profile Send private message Frodo Baggins Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 3172 Location: Dar ul-Bacon PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: Reply with quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/taqiyyah/en/chap2.php Innovation in Taqiyyah by Ibn Taymiyyah There are 3 verses of the Qur'an, that are so clear on Taqiyyah that no one can deny it. These verses are: First Verse: [Yusufali 3:28] Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah. 2nd Verse: [Yusufali 16:106] Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty. 3rd Verse: [Yusufali 40:28] A believer, a man from among the people of Pharaoh, who had concealed his faith, said: "Will ye slay a man because he says, 'My Lord is Allah'?- when he has indeed come to you with Clear (Signs) from your Lord? and if he be a liar, on him is (the sin of) his lie: but, if he is telling the Truth, then will fall on you something of the (calamity) of which he warns you: Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies! In presence of all these verses, no one can deny that Taqiyyah is not allowed in Islam. But Ibn Taymiyyah tried his best to change the meaning of Quran, by interpreting it according to his own "Agenda". Let's see what he writes in commentary of verse [3:28] Ibn Taymiyyah's commentary on verse [3:28] Let's see the verse once again: لاَّ يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاء مِن دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ إِلاَّ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّهُ نَفْسَهُ وَإِلَى اللّهِ الْمَصِيرُ [Yusufali 3:28] Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah. Here is the commentary by Ibn Taymiyyah: The verse 3 : 28 is not only an exception but also a restricted exception. Not only is it forbidden to be used against Muslims but it also does not give permission to lie to others. What it means is that if you oppose certain behaviours and you are in a situation where condemnation would endanger Islam or Muslim community you can keep silent but you must avoid Iying. 1. Ibn Taymiyah, Minhaj, Vol. 1 p. 213 2. Ibn Kathir, Tafseer of verse 3:28 Conclusion of Ibn Taymiyyah's Fatwa / (Innovations) In the above Fatwa, Ibn Taymiyyah introduced 2 conditions/ (innovations) at his own in the Islamic Sharia. They are: Taqiyyah can only be done in the presence of Kafirs, it cannot be practised before a cruel Muslim king. One cannot lie (while one is practising Taqiyyah) i.e. one can maintain silence, but should not lie. Our Response It is pure conjecture on the part of Ibn Taymiyyah to suggest that lying is prohibited under Taqiyyah or that it can only be practised against the Kuffar. There is not even a single proof for these innovations from the sources of Shari'ah: There is not a single verse of the Qur'an that prescribes these conditions. There is not even a single saying or practice of Rasul (s), that stipulates these conditions. Not even a single Sahabi understood Taqiyyah along with these conditions (they practised contrary to these conditions, as we will show shortly later on. Insha-Allah). No Ahle-Sunnah Alim from the early centuries added these conditions in Taqiyyah. We invite the Nasabis to prove the innovations of Ibn Taymiyyah from the above 4 sources. Contrary to Ibn Taymiyyah's claim, all of these sources are refuting his assertion. The Qur'an refutes Ibn Taymiyyah [Yusufali 16:106] Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty. As you see, the Qur'an states "uttering unbelief". This does not mean keeping silent. Uttering means either saying or acting something in contrary to belief. What lie is bigger than uttering unbelief? The onus is on the Nasibis to show us these 2 conditions/(innovations) of Ibn Taymiyyah from the Quran. The Sunnah of Rasul Allah (s) refuting Ibn Taymiyyah To understand the Sunnah of Rasul Allah (s), let us cite his words. We read in Sahih al Bukhari, v4, p45 publishers Uthmania, Egypt that Abu al-Darda' said he heard the Prophet (s) state: "(Verily) we smile for some people, while our hearts curse (those same people)." _________________
Taqiyyah is not a religious obligation, it is a doctrine which can be used in life or death situations. Let me quote ". . . Shi'ism contains a concept known as Taqiya. Basically, it amounts to concealment of true beliefs by a minority group in times of danger, or, when living in a hostile environment. . . . "Wright, Robin. Sacred Rage: the wrath of militant Islam, pg 157; Simon & Schuster, New York. 1986. ISBN 0671628119. " . . . but with rare exceptions, the range of their influence in the body-politic was negligible, and the general rule for the Twelvers (majority Shi'ite sect) was taqiyyah (prudential concealment of opinion.)Balyuzi, Hasan M. Muhammad and the course of Islam, pg 263; Gerald Ronald, Oxford, 1976, ISBN 0853980608. And from the Encyclopedia Britannica taqiyyah, in Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties when under threat of death or injury. Derived from the Arabic word waqa (“to shield oneself”, taqiyyah defies easy translation. English renderings such as “precautionary dissimulation” or “prudent fear” partly convey the term’s meaning of self-protection in the face of danger to oneself or, by extension and depending upon the circumstances, to one’s fellow Muslims. Thus, taqiyyah may be used for either the protection of an individual or the protection of a community. Moreover, it is not used or even interpreted in the same way by every sect of Islam. Taqiyyah has been employed by the Shīʿites, the largest minority sect of Islam, because of their historical persecution and political defeats not only by non-Muslims but also at the hands of the majority Sunni sect. ... Neither the Qurʾān nor the Hadith decrees points of doctrine or prescribes guidelines for behaviour when using taqiyyah. The circumstances in which it may be used and the extent to which it is obligatory have been widely disputed by Islamic scholars. According to scholarly and judicial consensus, it is not justified by the threat of flogging, temporary imprisonment, or other relatively tolerable punishments. The danger to the believer must be unavoidable. Also, while taqiyyah may involve disguising or suppressing one’s religious identity, it is not a license for a shallow profession of faith. Oaths taken with mental reservation, for example, are justified on the basis that God accepts what one believes inwardly. Consideration of community rather than private welfare is stressed in most cases. What does the Qur’an actually say about lying and telling the truth? [1] “And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)” [2] “If ye are on a journey, and cannot find a scribe, a pledge with possession (may serve the purpose). And if one of you deposits a thing on trust with another, Let the trustee (Faithfully) discharge His trust, and let him fear his Lord. Conceal not evidence; for whoever conceals it,- His heart is tainted with sin. And God Knoweth all that ye do. (Qur’an, 2:283)” [3] “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 4:135)” [4] “But if anyone earns A fault or a sin And throws it on to one That is innocent, He carries (on himself) (Both) a falsehood And a flagrant sin. (Qur’an, 4:112)” [5]“...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment. (Qur’an, 5:2)” [6] “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For Allah, as witnesses To fair dealing, and let not The hatred of others To you make you swerve To wrong and depart from Justice. Be just: that is Next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 5:” [7] “O you who believe, you shall reverence GOD, and be among the truthful.” (Qur’an 9:119) [8] “Allah commands justice, the doing Of good, and liberality to kith And kin, and He forbids All shameful deeds, and injustice And rebellion: He instructs you, That ye may receive admonition. (Qur’an, 16:90)” [9] “It is only those who believe not in the Ayah (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, who fabricate falsehood, and it is they who are liars.” (Qur’an 16:105) [10] “The submitting men, the submitting women, the believing men, the believing women, the obedient men, the obedient women, the truthful men, the truthful women, the steadfast men, the steadfast women, the reverent men, the reverent women, the charitable men, the charitable women, the fasting men, the fasting women, the chaste men, the chaste women, and the men who commemorate GOD frequently, and the commemorating women; GOD has prepared for them forgiveness and a great recompense.” (Qur’an 33:35) [11] “Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies.” (Qur’an 40:2 [12] “Woe to each sinful dealer in Falsehoods: (Qur’an, 45:7)” [13] “Oh prophet! Accept the pledges of the believing women, when they come to take their oaths of allegiance to you. Provided, they pledge that they would not join any partners with Allah, would not steal, commit adultery or kill their children, and would not indulge in slander, and would not concoct lies on their own. Also, that they would not disobey you in what is right. Seek forgiveness for them from Allah! Certainly Allah is the most Forgiving and the most Merciful. (Qur’an, 60:12)” What do the hadith say? [1]“Be honest because honesty leads to goodness, and goodness leads to Paradise. Beware of falsehood because it leads to immorality, and immorality leads to Hell.” [2] Abdullah bin Mas`ud (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, “Truth leads to piety and piety leads to Jannah. A man persists in speaking the truth till he is enrolled with Allah as a truthful. Falsehood leads to vice and vice leads to the Fire (Hell), and a person persists on telling lies until he is enrolled as a liar”.’ [3] It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The signs of the hypocrite are three: when he speaks, he lies; when he makes a promise, he breaks it; and when he is entrusted with something, he betrays that trust.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 33; Muslim, 59) [4] Hasan bin `Ali (May Allah be pleased with them) said: I remember (these words) from Messenger of Allah (PBUH): “Give up what is doubtful to you for that which is not doubtful; for truth is peace of mind and falsehood is doubt”. [At-Tirmidhi]. [5] Hakim bin Hizam (May Allah be pleased with him) reported that: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: “Both parties in a business transaction have a right to annul it so long as they have not separated; and if they tell the truth and make everything clear to each other (i.e., the seller and the buyer speak the truth, the seller with regard to what is purchased, and the buyer with regard to the money) they will be blessed in their transaction, but if they conceal anything and lie, the blessing on their transaction will be eliminated.’‘ [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Islam is a lie? That is a lie, but I know what Pope Leo X said was a fiction, i.e., LIE that the Church has profited or benefited from. I guess you did not know that the title "Christ or Christos was bestowed upon Ptolemy V Epiphanes who had the title of Soter or Savior as well. The name Epiphanes sounds much like The Epiphany of Christianity doesn't it? You bet it does. All things being related and such. Think over these things. . .
kiwimac, you are fighting with those who fight with you "in the best manner". Thank you and remember, "Hurl truth at falsehood until you knock its brains out" "For falsehood is bound to perish".
