Lying for Islam

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong again; ask a rabbi. Ethnicity has ALWAYS passed though the MOTHER, amongst the Hebrews. It started with ABRAHAM and SARAH, and was first codified in halakh by Ezra.

    This is why ISAAC , born to Sarah, was awarded the legacy instead of the NON-HEBREW -BORN Ismael.
    It was God himself who made Isaac Abraham's heir,as the SON OF HIS WIFE.

    Ismael and Abraham remained close, but Isaac was his heir.

    Sorry, but non-Jews don't get to rewrite the history of the Jewish people, despite the delusions of the bloodthirsty, pedophile Mayor of Medina.
     
  2. riza

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    You know, you are free to take it to the moderators.
     
  3. frodo

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    It's interesting watching the messengers of hate slanging off at Islam. How much does Israel pay you, or do you do it for free?

    What you are doing is exactly the equivalent of equating the behaviour of the Phelps family with all Christians or the Kach movement with all Jews.

    99.99% of all Muslims are peaceful and want exactly the same things for themselves and their children as you or I do, as demonstrated by the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt and Lebanon as well as the protests in Yemen, Syria and Algeria.
     
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    Loads of Islam peoples are showing up here in the USA, The Ft. Dix five, the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber, the 9/11 folks, the army shrink in texas, the times square bomber, the texas college student who ordered enough phenol to blow things sky high.

    That's just a few that I know about and that's a lot of hatred for one group of people (Muslim) to be proud of.

    In addition, the adherents of Islam NEVER speak up against their bretheren, that maybe trying to kill or managing to kill innocents isn't a great idea, but all you hear is the sound of nothingness.
     
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    By all means ASK a Rabbi.

    Ethnicity was NOT passed thru the mother until the Babylonian exile.

    Abraham, Moses, David and Solomon all had foreign wives.

    Read your Torah.

    One of the earliest diasporas was because Jews returning from Babylon were told to divorce their foreign wives and abandon those children.


    As for Spain:

    One of the characteristic features of the early history of Spain is the successive waves of different people who spread across the Iberian Peninsula. Phoenicians, Greeks, Vandals, Visigoths, Muslims, Jews, and Christians all occupied Spain at one point or another.

    History records communities of Jews living on the Iberian Peninsula from as early as the destruction of the first temple in Jerusalem (Diaz-Mas 1).

    But it was during the realm of the Moors in Al-Andalus (land of the vandals) which the Jews thrived the greatest.

    See Sepharidic Studies:

    http://www.sephardicstudies.org/islam.html
    Though this was a time of artistic, educational, and cultural enlightenment, it was not completely serene or without persecution for the Jewish people.
     
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    Ok, Kudzu. Let's see you post within 10 seconds of your alleged alter-ego.
     
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    There sure is a lot of (*)(*)(*)(*) about this so called religion, islam. I don't care about all that (*)(*)(*)(*). The bottom line is this....so long as these muslin radicals are trying to kill me, I will do my best to kill them.

    If they, these muslim idiots, stay at home and beat their women and (*)(*)(*)(*) their goats, I will behave myself.
     
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    The first Hebrew to make his heir the son of his HEBREW WIFE, over an OLDER, non-Hebrew-born son...was ABRAHAM.

    The Jews seem to thriving OK right now, worldwide.

    What has Spain to do with anything on this thread?

    And it will never change the FACT that the arabs CAN NEVER BE the HEBREWS, despite their desperate craving otherwise.
     
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    You'll never persuade the merchants of hate that they're in the wrong business; it pays too well.
     
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    So muslims are in violent conflicts with non-muslims worldwide...for the money? Hmmm....
     
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    Abraham wasn't a Hebrew.. He was from Basra, remember?

    And he circumcised all the children with his wives Hagar, Sarah and Keturah.

    The Diaspora to Spain began during the first Temple period.
     
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    We know them by there actions, which we see all over the world. We don't need to visit some third world terrorists country and get ourselves killed by being beaten or stoned or beheaded to know that Islam is not the religion of peace that you profess.
     
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    Yeah, because every last one of them is out to get you and eat your babies.

    Oh boy...
     
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    The vast majority are not...until push comes to shove and just like Obama has stated in one of his book "The Audacity of Hope"...He will side with the Muslims. That's about all you need to know. That is the truth. Sure they go about their daily lives, but I'm telling you right now, if there is a crisis and they will do whatever they have to and advance the Muslim religion over infidels any day of the week.
     
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    Yes, and that was NOT the Case until some returned from Babylon.

    Read

    Ezra 9: 1 After these things had been done, the leaders came to me and said, "The people of Israel, including the priests and the Levites, have not kept themselves separate from the neighboring peoples with their detestable practices, like those of the Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians and Amorites.

    2 They have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, and have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them.

    And the leaders and officials have led the way in this unfaithfulness." 3 When I heard this, I tore my tunic and cloak, pulled hair from my head and beard and sat down appalled. 4 Then everyone who trembled at the words of the God of Israel gathered around me because of this unfaithfulness of the exiles. And I sat there appalled until the evening sacrifice. 5 Then, at the evening sacrifice, I rose from my self-abasement, with my tunic and cloak torn, and fell on my knees with my hands spread out to the Lord my God 6 and prayed:

    "O my God, I am too ashamed and disgraced to lift up my face to you, my God, because our sins are higher than our heads and our guilt has reached to the heavens. 7 From the days of our forefathers until now, our guilt has been great. Because of our sins, we and our kings and our priests have been subjected to the sword and captivity, to pillage and humiliation at the hand of foreign kings, as it is today. 8 "But now, for a brief moment, the Lord our God has been gracious in leaving us a remnant and giving us a firm place in his sanctuary, and so our God gives light to our eyes and a little relief in our bondage.

    9 Though we are slaves, our God has not deserted us in our bondage. He has shown us kindness in the sight of the kings of Persia: He has granted us new life to rebuild the house of our God and repair its ruins, and he has given us a wall of protection in Judah and Jerusalem.

    10 "But now, O our God, what can we say after this? For we have disregarded the commands 11 you gave through your servants the prophets when you said: 'The land you are entering to possess is a land polluted by the corruption of its peoples. By their detestable practices they have filled it with their impurity from one end to the other.

    12 Therefore, do not give your daughters in marriage to their sons or take their daughters for your sons. Do not seek a treaty of friendship with them at any time, that you may be strong and eat the good things of the land and leave it to your children as an everlasting inheritance.'
     
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    So, the old 12er' President of Iran doesn't want war...LMFAO!!! He would like nothing better than to hasten the return of the promised one. You profess to know so much about the ME and yet your post reflect stupidity.
     
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    The 12ers are a minority sect within the Shia minority.

    Muslims would laugh at you..

    Its like believing that all the Jews in the world have to move to Israel before the Messiah comes. LOLOLOL
     
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    Well you better hop on a (*)(*)(*)(*) plane and get your ass over to the ME and let them in on these things.
     
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    That's an impressive bodycount. The ROP doesn't fool around spreading their faith.
     
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    Radical Muslims are not quite the minority you say they are. Some of the most influential Imam's in the world would like nothing better than to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth. You are not kidding anyone Margo, nor are you convincing anyone that Islam is the religion of peace. The only people who believe you are ignorant of the facts just like you.
     
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    I'll wager that you have no clue what an Imam is...........
     
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    LMFAO!!!!

    Why don't you look it up...I know Google is your best friend.
     
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    Iamanutjob has the equivalent theology of a Jerry Fallwell or Hal Lindsey or Pat Robertson.
     
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    yes, and they have lots of followers who can do great damage.
     

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