M. P. Sean Fraser, proposed anti-feticide bill.

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by DennisTate, Jul 15, 2016.

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At what number of weeks should a foetus be protected?

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  5. The foetus should NOT be protected at all.

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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Have you seen the results of your own poll????:)
     
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    Yes......... and I have another poll going that if you FoxHastings were to deeply research this idea.........
    you might just change your mind and you might become one of my most enthusiastic supporters on
    this forum?



    Could Rabbi Alon Anava be more like Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus than any Christian on earth?


    Near death experiencers report there being no condemnation for the women who decide to have an abortion...........
    but all of us have some responsibility to accomplish something significant with our lives.

     
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    Why? Even if I believed NDE were real or had any significance whatsoever , and I do NOT, I wouldn't become your supporter .

    Are you trying to set yourself up as some kind of NDE leader? Why ?
     
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    I consider NDE's to more easily understood...... generally much more positive......
    and more easily to get people interested in due to their being in the context of our time period
    when so many people are being revived after a brush with death.

    They give great hope for the year 2185 that I believe is critical for young people who
    may tend to be in a mind set of hopelessness due to the sheer number of nuclear warheads that
    we already have stockpiled.
     
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    """They give great hope for the year 2185""""":roflol: 2185! Uh, don't hold your breath ! :)
     
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    Don't worry for me.....
    I won't be........

    but this is beginning to take shape and form:



    Maxime Bernier welcomes Pro-life Canadians to People's Party of Canada.

     
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    Many women would love to have the option to become an actress........
    starring as herself.... an expectant mother facing the choice of having an abortion or.............
    participation in a reality film series where the potential revenue from the films.......
    ensures that she and her child are not condemned to a life of poverty........
    if she brings her foetus to full term and gives birth and perhaps gives her child up for adoption or..........

    ... perhaps the relative fame she and her child gain through the proposed films.......
    expands her earning potential????!


    It is my belief that the Canadian.... American.... and world economy have been deliberately
    dampened.......to break unions...... or at least keep them in line........
    The measures used to break unions basically destroy economic OPTIMISM in Canadians and Americans.........

    Maxime Bernier welcomes Pro-life Canadians to People's Party of Canada.




    Here is one of the major reasons why Canadian women feel pressured into having an abortion. They feel that our economic situation leaves them with really no choice other than to take the risk of living in relative poverty along with their child. This situation has been forced on them and we need to be more well informed about this.


    After P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau's colossal error here is how the national debt of
    Canada spiralled out of control:

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    My guess is that he was pressured into doing this so that the same thing could be
    arranged in the USA:


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    Many wealthy people believe that the only way to keep the lower class working
    hard is to keep them head over heels in debt and kind of hungry.

    https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/social-credit/item/the-public-debt-problem?/plenty34.htm
    The Public-Debt Problem






    Here is how I explained this back in 2006 when I campaigned for the office of M. L. A. as an independent:

    From 1940 to 1974 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1974 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

    Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.


    The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?

    So what can you and I do about this problem?

    My 2006, 2008, 2016 and 2004 campaign writings as ART.

     
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    PROVE IT.






    The rest is also gibberish....nice of PF to allow you to use the forum to campaign (even if it isn't going anywhere :))


    Making women's lives harder....I guess if that's one's goal in life then one would be delighted with this ignorant bill....
     
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    I will try...... this is over on the "Creative Corner" forum because I believe that the key is to link all of these problems to each other..... and to the possible separation of Alberta and perhaps several other provinces and territories from the Commonwealth of Canada.......

    Albertans tend to be somewhat more Pro-life than many other Canadians tend to be partly due to the type of economy that Alberta has. This is a good reason for me to write to our Liberal M. P. Mr. Sean Fraser and propose cooperation between his party with the leader of my favourite Canadian political party.

    Proposed Republic of Western Canada and Unified Field Theory of M.W.P.

     
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    FoxHastings said:
    PROVE IT.


    YOU DIDN'T





    The rest is also gibberish....nice of PF to allow you to use the forum to campaign (even if it isn't going anywhere :))


    Making women's lives harder....I guess if that's one's goal in life then one would be delighted with this ignorant bill....









    My post above stands no matter how many times you write letters to whoever or babble on about the economy......…Using crap about the economy to destroy people's rights isn't going to fly..


    This belongs in a "Creative Corner" since it's all fantasy..
     
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    I was referring to applying this over time...... which will take months and years and frankly decades.

    This can only be understood by people rapidly who are open to the idea that maybe....... just maybe.... human life may have something like infinite value to an Intelligence that evolved and learned over infinite time in the past who has planned and choreographed an infinite number of Big Bang type events..........
    Exceptionally wise people can understand this from the rather simplistic explanation that I put here.........

    but you are biased Fox.... and you will not grasp this rather simple idea quickly...... your bias and your anger blind you......

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    Well, pregnancy takes 9 months , a woman can't make it last longer to suit your Utopian idea of what lif MIGHT become.


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    What bias and anger? That's only in your mind.

    I am not angry but I am biased in favor of EVERYONE, even WOMEN, having the right to their own body. Does that anger you?

    You think that if by some miracle the economy improves women will magically want every pregnancy?

    I guess you didn't know that even wealthy women have abortions and economical status is NOT the only reason women do not want to give birth.
     
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    True..... many wealthy women do indeed choose to have an abortion.......
    for a variety of reasons.


    https://www.pop.org/many-american-women-felt-pressured-abortions-study-finds/


    Many American Women Have Felt Pressured into Abortions, Study Finds

     
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    LOL! What a biased load of misogynistic sexist horse puckey.



    Now lets' talk about the horrendous pressure women are under to produce children and especially the Worshipped -as-a God, GRANCHILDREN.



    AND you seem to feel it's wrong to pressure women YET YOU want to take away their right to choose altogether!! :roflol::roflol:

    TALK about PRESSURE!!!


    Maybe you should decide what YOU want before commanding women do what you want.


    DennisTate said:
    Many women would love to have the option to become an actress........""
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    PROVE IT.
     
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    A Disney actress with one spoken line earns about one thousand dollars per hour.

    Christian groups are getting into various types of media so reality films starring a young woman who is considering having an abortion is a logical option for churches and pro-life groups to consider. If the proceeds from the reality film went into a trust fund that would pay for the child's education later on....... mom might just be tempted.


    I suggested using this idea to address homelessness.....
    but this sort of thing could work to reduce the number of abortions as well.


    Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.
     
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    So? How does that prove :

    DennisTate said:
    Many women would love to have the option to become an actress........""
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    ???????

    Answer: It doesn't.






    :) Ya, let me know when the Oscars are handed out for "Best Religious Brainwashing Film Making Billions of Dollars" …..because that's what they'll need to support all these women and their children :)



    Large churches should pay taxes like everyone else.


    Now lets' talk about the horrendous pressure women are under to produce children and especially the Worshipped -as-a God, GRANCHILDREN.
     
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    Here is a paragraph that I consider to be the best ANTI-brainwashing
    information that I personally have ever read:

    and this one really surprised me as well when I first read it:

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a11
    Throughout history gold, silver, diamonds... and more recently oil......
    have been used as a stabilizing commodity to back up the value of money.......
    but now we are looking at evidence that seems to indicate that human life has something like
    INFINITE VALUE... to an Intelligence / Intelligences......
    that have existed from infinite time in the past.....
    This could lay the foundation for a paradigm shift in economics that will benefit women and children within two centuries more than any other group of people.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    So? How does that prove :

    DennisTate said:

    Many women would love to have the option to become an actress........""
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    ???????

    Answer: It doesn't.



    :) Ya, let me know when the Oscars are handed out for "Best Religious Brainwashing Film Making Billions of Dollars" …..because that's what they'll need to support all these women and their children :)


    Large churches should pay taxes like everyone else.


    Now lets' talk about the horrendous pressure women are under to produce children and especially the Worshipped -as-a God, GRANCHILDREN.



    Thank you for proving you can't address facts and common sense ( MY POSTS) but reply with garbled nonsense and religion ( one and the same) ....


    Please take religion to the Religion Forum....
     
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